how about shooting it like the rest of spidey 2.

Make your own wall-crawling superhero, Sony. Let Spidey Go!!!

Same goes for FOX and the X-Men movie rights. Let them go home to Marvel!

and Two-Face was certainly not shoehorned into TDK. he was central to the plot! he was the human representation of every thing Joker and Batman were fighting over.

I love raimi's body of work. From the ED series to A SIMPLE PLAN, THE GIFT, and FOR LOVE OF THE GAME. So don't take this as if some fanboy hater is screaming it, but I think his creative juices have been exhausted for this series.

that's number 1. number 2: you're kidding yourself if you don't think venom is coming back. this doesn't bother me qua venom because he IS the natural choice for a spider-man nemesis, especially since Peter is at a point where the identity crisis stuff is behind him. that said, the venom character that they've already established in this iteration of SPIDEY-verse is poorly constructed. he LOOKS cool, but as was previously mentioned, his introduction was a clusterfuck, and the character would benefit from a reboot. but beside that, nobody was upset with christopher nolan for pissing on tim burton's legacy, were they? I would rather see a completely new approach ala batman begins and pray for a similar confluence of direction/scripting and audience enthusiasm.

number 3: FX need to improve on spidey. this was already mentioned and look, I gave the first movie a pass on this because they more or less got spidey onscreen. the second movie improved significantly the cgi swinging and battle sequences. the third movie certainly did not improve and may even have fallen below the bar set in the sequel. a lot of that probably has to do with the script - you have to have a scene that masks the inadequacies of the current technology better than SPIDEY-3 did. then again, it's hard to take anything the "green surf turd" does onscreen seriously.

I don't think raimi likes the venom/carnage characters. so that's a good argument for mysterio. personally, I think the only major stuff that's left involves the symbiotes: maximum carnage being the next logical step. I doubt they'd go the kingpin route, but the 90s cartoon did develop a pretty respectable story arc with kingpin as the primary villain. I suppose they can spare him from DD, but property rights are prolly an issue with the devils of Hollywood...er...I mean FOX.

Saying all that, though I didn't think Spider-Man 3 was the complete train wreck some make it out to be. It did have its fun points and I didn't even mind the goofy dancing too much but the plotting was atrocious and the last act just fell apart. My theory is, if they could have edited it down by 15 mins or so, toned down the dance scenes, got rid of the butler and that fucking annoying reporter, maybe reinserted some of the sandman scenes which got cut (and apparently really pissed Hayden Church off) then the general reaction would not have been nearly so negative. It would still have had major problems for sure and would have been a letdown after 2 but the fanboys wouldn't have been nearly so vehement in their hatred.

-venom was handled poorly. raimi doen't like the character (even though it would've been great to see someone that cared about venom direct his movie...we didn't get that). the cgi venom clinging to the wall looked ass. topher grace was an ass choice. topher grace wasn't good as venom.

-james franco was GD awful in it, but they had a good idea with him getting amnesia, because you knew eventually he would remember...he was a time bomb. this story arc needed an ending, and i'm sure they assumed they were not going to be back for 4 & 5. so, they had to wrap it up.

-sandman was rushed through. this could have been developed into a more interesting story, if we didn't have to have venom forced in. but, sandman always struck me as a villain like "juggernaut"...cool to see, but not real important in terms of the story's continuity.

-spiderman 3 was better than batman & robin. this is a no-brainer. anyone that argues that these 2 movies are neck in neck in terms of quality needs to re-watch batman & robin as punishment. that movie was the worst piece of shit ever shat. spiderman 3 suffered from shoehorning 3 villains into one movie...2 of which were introduced in it. batman & robin suffered long before they brought in poison ivy.

-sam raimi is better than joel schumacher. it gets me a little bit upset that fanboys rip on him for spiderman 3. it wasn't the best. it was kind of a chaotic mess...but, don't come down so hard on raimi. this si the dude tht brought you evil dead 2, army of darkness, and the first 2 spiderman movies. i think it's awesome that he and tobey are back for the 4th and 5th. i look forward to it, especially if dylanbaker is back.

-the franchise fizzled. the first 2 were great. (willem dafoe made the 1st one. he gave an incredible performance). but, i think the fact that they're not just saying "spiderman 4" but, "spiderman 4 & 5" could be a good sign. they might continue on with bryce dallas howard. they could be building up to something hueg in 5.

-we're all obviously excited about this news. this TB has blown up.

Imagine Kirsten Stewart wrapped around you... Meeeeeow.

I had A LOT of trouble with ALL OF THE CRYING and the revenge jazz dance sequence and as much as I appreciated the "nerdy walk" montage of Spidey 2...that "comedic" "badass" walk that they utilized in Spidey 3 took something that was supposed to be serious (black suit) and turned it into something completely ridiculous.

No more Raimi! REBOOT!