I'm not sure this guy really understands political art. Chinua Achebe once wrote something along the lines of the following: unless you are willing to criticize your own political leanings as well as the opposition's, then you're not making art you are making propaganda. That's why the Daily Show can spend a week destroying the Democrats and then a week destroying the Republicans. They might choose one side over the other but they realize that both need to be mocked.

He doesn't sling shit to suppress points of view. He seems to do it cause he wants to be a prick.

it will be interesting to see how well this film does to be honest. I bet you fox network hawks this film like a motherfucker. is it a fox production?

Also, remember when the Joker says that no one cares when a truckload of military men are blown up so long as it's not them? Think about how many conservatives claim we haven't been attacked since 9/11 when our soldiers are facing attacks daily in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's acceptable to sacrifice soldier's lives so long as it not ours. Never mind the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians. All of these deaths would have been preventable if the majority of Americans believed that the life of a soldier and the life of an Iraqi are of equal worth to their own.

Sure, there are moments when the film is problematic, but I think the majority of the movie supports a liberal point of view. After all, Batman concedes that Dent was the better man because he was capable of fighting evil within the system.

Thank God a conservative wasn't in office during those two moments in history or else the U.S. would have been screwed.

Yeah, of course, I meant to distance Charlie Sheen from everybody else. I just added to my list and forgot to change the number. Sorry about that.

As far as Clinton, he wasn't president when 3,000 civilians were killed on U.S. soil. When that happened Bush should have realized we needed to keep a tighter lid on our own weapons. He didn't and thus more people died because of terrorism even after 9/11.

Besides, Clinton was on the offensive against Al Qaeda long before Bush lifted a finger to stop them. He bombed their training camps and worked with other countries to try and get Bin Laden. Bush didn't do anything in his first year in office to keep the pressure against Al Qaeda, even when he was given a memo stating that Bin Laden planned on attacking within the U.S. and was warned by Richard Clarke. As I've noted before, Bush deserves some blame for not preventing 9/11. He is a truly incompetent president.

What?

This comes down to what is foreseeable. It was less foreseeable for Clinton that years after he left office someone would use our own bioweapons to attack U.S. citizens, but for Bush this was readily foreseeable because we had just suffered a terrible U.S. attack.

If it makes you feel any better, it was smart of Bush the first to not enter Baghdad and destabilize the country. I disagreed with him on many, many issues, but at least he wasn't as wholesale incompetent as his son.

Obidawsn, Clinton never knew where Bin Laden was and he never called off an attack on Bin Laden. These are fabricated incidents they used in that Path to 9/11 made for tv film, not historical incidents. Richard Clarke himself, who was working at the CIA, said that the incident depicted in the movie never happened. For some people lots of people take this fictional story as fact.

The people were massacred. Our military was shamed on the world's stage. The talk on the street was not, "wow don't mess with the US" but "kill a few of them, and they'll run home." So the mission statement for every fringe lunatic warlord became, "kill a few US soldiers."

Lets say some guy breaks into your house tonight. He kills your kids, rapes your wife, and steals your HDTV and Xbox 360. You get a good look at him - he's your next door neighbor. You call Obama for advice, and what does Obama say?

"I think both of you can share equally in the blame here. Invite him over to dinner and talk. Get to know him. Find out what you have in common."

You hang up and call McCain. He says, "I would call the police."

Honestly, why would our enemies waste time scheming to kill American civilians in America, when they have a lot less distance to travel and fewer obstacles to overcome killing American soldiers in Iraq? Who's going to walk across the street and ask their neighbors if they can use their bathroom when they have two perfectly suitable toilets in their own house?

I agree that pulling out of Somalia was a huge mistake and that Clinton is a douchebag, but if you're going mention his tremendous error, I'd appreciate it if you mentioned that Reagan did the same thing in Lebanon.

This movie, by the way, does sound like it'll be bad, and I'd consider myself more conservative than liberal.

Oh, and some people hate Michael Moore because there really are a number of people who believe everything he puts in his movies is fact and can't be argued with.

Bill-O says it's a disgrace that the media doesn't respect the privacy of Bristol and the redneck but he was all over Jamie Lynn Spears calling her a pinhead and blasting her mother for being an irresponsible absentee parent.

And to hear these conservative pundits go off on the "liberal media" for sexist attacks on Palin? Really? She's been under fire for less than a week and you take issue with that? I'm no fan of Hillary but she has been been lambasted by the right for 15 years. She's been called "bitch, Hitlery, Shrillery, a feminazi," you name it. That thin-skinned, indignant hypocrisy is too much.

And lastly, as far as disrupting us, yeah, there's the REAL mission accomplished. Look how paranoid and divided we've become. We focused so much on the war on terror, we forgot to address things at home. The mortgage crisis, the credit crunch, retail sector in the toilet, ballooning unemployment, a weak dollar. I'd say the terrorists are quite proud of the chaos they continue to cause over here without any further effort.

As for Obama not loving country, damn, here we go again. Why is it wrong to point out faults? How is that not loving a country when you want to see it be better?

The same way they have convinced their base that Obama and most liberals are elitists when Cindy McCain speaks at the RNC in an outfit worth twice as much as my house.

Good article Dr. Huffufufr. I'm open to watching the movie only if it's funny. Is it funny, and funny enough to Netflix it? The trailer tells me a different story.

Obama's deep into the issues now, and well past the hyperbole train the Right is rolling out.

Here is the problem, are you out to make a funny movie, or are you out to make a statement. I get the feeling its the latter, which means it won't be funny.

But for those who say you can't be funny as a conservative, apparently never watch South Park, cause those guys can be hilarious in showing out some of the ridiculous hypocrisy of the left. MAN BEAR PIG!

I also like how someone put TDK, 300 & T-Formers as right wing movies, going up against Stop Loss, Lions for Lambs & Redacted as left movies. Now that is fair & balanced!

But only idiot Americans would hear the McCains call Obama an elitist in their designer clothes and countless houses and buy into it. Only idiot Americans would see a pregnant 17-teen year old girl and a Downs baby paraded into the spotlight as an attempt to prove "we're just like you" and buy into it. Only idiot Americans believe Bush and McCain when they say "we have to fight them over there so we don't fight them over here" and think it makes sense. Only idiot Americans tolerate a party that proclaims it's all about family values when countless representatives are being busted for having affairs and then forgiven as if it was nothing. Only idiot Americans listen to a politician quoting lines from the Bible about how homosexuality is a sin and gay people will never be allowed to marry if Republicans have their say but then goes to airport bathrooms to sexually solicit other men.

There is no more hypocritical a creature than a modern day conservative and that is not debatable.

But what cracks me up is the hypocrisy who make sure to remind us of how horrific the atrocities of McCarthysm was, almost comparing that to the Holocaust or something really atrocious (peoples can't work, cause they went to a communist rally, oh nos!). And then these same individuals get very bristly if a film doesn't share their worldview. Ever read Daily KOS' review of TDK and their assertion that it was fascist propoganda? People also thought the same about 300, and Zack Miller is hardly a conservative.

I happen to think it's more meaningful to convey love of country and inspire Americans face-to-face, intimately, than to make grandiose speeches on the Senate floor.

I'll bet if he did as you say he should, you'd accuse him of using the Capital as a campaign stop.