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Quint and Guillermo del Toro chat about HELLBOY II, THE HOBBIT and more!!!

Only good things to come by Aloy	Jul 12th, 2008 02:03:00 AM
from Mr.Del Toro
Guillermo's Wears His Passion On His Sleeve by thelordofhell	Jul 12th, 2008 02:03:15 AM
And that is what makes him a great director.
The Hobbit by Clarence Boddicker	Jul 12th, 2008 02:15:36 AM
Personally, the only thing that I'm curious about is how he's going to handle the difference between Goblins and Orcs...a nerd gripe I know...but still...I'm intrigued. JRR used the term liberally...
Just saw it by kungfuhustler84	Jul 12th, 2008 02:19:20 AM
while I have always been a huge movie fan and have had ambitions of getting into the movie industry, Hellboy II is the one film that I think has really inspired me to dig in my heels and really work to create my own films and spread them around. This movie had so much soul, so much excitement, so much creative designing and art and action, that I simply cannot see myself working in any other field any longer. Del Toro has shown me how successful a film maker can be at merging perfect action-packed fun with incredibly meticulous artistic design, and charming characterizations. While this is definitely not the best movie I have ever seen, I was just in awe of the movie. It was so obvious how much time was put into every little detail. That scene at the market is still spinning in my head. Well done man. Really entertaining, creative, wonderful stuff.
Oh, and that elf prince? by kungfuhustler84	Jul 12th, 2008 02:21:04 AM
Total badass. I know he was the bad guy, but I was almost rooting for him the whole time. The action scenes with him were pretty incredible. I wonder, did Luke do all his own stunts? It was seriously some of the best screen fighting I have seen in an American film since maybe the first Matrix movie. And I have seen A LOT of fight scenes in my day.
Mimic by Project424	Jul 12th, 2008 02:38:54 AM
Mr. Funny Shoes was his best character... followed by the one-legged nymphomaniac.
GTD is awesome by m_reporter	Jul 12th, 2008 02:43:44 AM
A truly visionary filmmaker. Can't wait to watch Hellboy 2.
Good luck Kungfuhustler by half vader	Jul 12th, 2008 02:59:11 AM
I'm glad it inspired you to take that step over the line. Go for it mate, and let us know how you get on here in the TBs. Although be prepared for nerd wrath over some of the stuff you find yourself on!
Oh yeah, one qualm by kungfuhustler84	Jul 12th, 2008 03:11:25 AM
Hellboy as a boy. Hideous. Just really stupid.
kid hellboy by m_reporter	Jul 12th, 2008 03:20:13 AM
Was actually in a short Hellboy "story" called Pancakes. Was a nice and funny peace. No idea how kid HB looks in this film though, so yeah... I can see i going wrong easy.
If only the elf twins were fleshed out a bit more... by Shermdawg	Jul 12th, 2008 03:20:19 AM
...especially Abe's angle with The Princess, Hellboy 2 would've been damn-near perfect. Best film so far this summer.
"I can see IT going wrong easy"... by m_reporter	Jul 12th, 2008 03:22:13 AM
...yeah... they need to add an edit option here :P
Ah crap. by Shermdawg	Jul 12th, 2008 03:29:27 AM
Forgot about the kid. Yeah, Red as a boy was a bit on the weak side, but I'll chalk that up to having him overact the part.
Quint, call me crazy, but... by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch	Jul 12th, 2008 03:47:14 AM
... How can anyone come up behind him when he's sitting in front of a wall?
Mike's got phase abilities. by Shermdawg	Jul 12th, 2008 04:10:08 AM
He hugged him THROUGH the wall.
Gracias Guillermo by mr_lopez	Jul 12th, 2008 04:27:35 AM
Hellboy II estuvo perfecta. Eres un orgullo mexicano!
88% on Rottentomoatoes. by Cameron1	Jul 12th, 2008 06:24:27 AM
Great interview and Del Toro must be really happy with the score too. Congratulations, Guillermo you've more than earned it. HellBoy 2 is a perfect movie. Pan's Labyrinth and this are his masterpieces.
fond memories of the days of the trilogy by deanbarry	Jul 12th, 2008 06:39:08 AM
Remember them? After the Fellowship Of The Ring came out, I was buzzing with anticipation for the next two. Every year, building up to their consecutive releases was a time of wonder. Something to look forward to. And when the trilogy ended...it was a time of sadness. As there was no more to look forward to. But now, The Hobbit is happening. The time of wonderment is on us again. Bliss! Cinema is getting the magic back once again :)
Having seen HBII I am VERY concerned by brobdingnag	Jul 12th, 2008 08:44:07 AM
About letting this guy touch the Hobbit. While he may be able to handle the visual aspects, that's about ALL he can handle. I hope Jackson keeps this guy on a tight leash.
A Perfectly executed GDT movie by Sparhawk38	Jul 12th, 2008 08:48:25 AM
That is the thing. It has real heart, and after seeing it and thinking about it for a bit, it feels like GDT was able to do what he wanted to do. Some may not like it or nit pick it to death, but it seems like the director was able to make the movie he wanted. Not many movies feel that way. If you like his movies, I don't see how you could not love this one. I understand the criticism of the "boy" scene, but it sort of came off to me like it was a memory. Like we were seeing it as hellboy would remember it. Either way, it was an important scene, I think. It jarred me a little at first and then I was into it. John Hurt nailed that scene and it really captured a father/son feeling. The only other small moment was Abes voice. But again, I think it was the right choice to let Doug Jones voice his own damn character. I don't think we would have noticed at all if he had done it in the first. It started to blend in for me as the movie progressed. Finally, I think the fight scenes were amazing and worked in the style of the film perfectly. They could have been so much less. Instead they came across epic and totally connected with the story. Not too much, not too little, just right. I am still a little overwhelmed by it all. I know I am going to live TDK, but the as many have stated in the past, the fight scenes from the first did not carry the emotional impact I had hoped they would. I don't think they should be just like Hellboy, because those fit the bill specifically for that movie...I just think that the fights in TDK should fit and carry the same emotional impact that they do in HB2. What a great summer for movies! ...if you are a big geek.
The Hobbit films. The Truth: by SonOfTorah	Jul 12th, 2008 10:43:42 AM
The Tolkien Estate have told The Hobbit film makers that they have the film rights to The Lord Of The Rings and The Hobbit. Nothing more, nothing less. Thus, the 5th film will be based on material available from the Appendices of The Lord Of The Rings and events from The Hobbit. Not Lost Tales, not Unfinished Stories or any other source. Meaning that Jackson and crew are going to need to come up with a script that is virtually 95% NEW material. Me? I don't think it is going to happen. Too much of a stretch...
Cameron1 by topaz4206	Jul 12th, 2008 12:03:16 PM
I agree, but don't forget Devil's Backbone. One of the best ghost stories ever filmed. Pitch perfect.
Brilliant Film by Evil Chicken	Jul 12th, 2008 01:22:14 PM
Great interview. Was it just me or does the Elf Prince remind anyone else of Tom Cruise? Great film. I can’t wait for number 3! Maybe we can wait for the Hobbit? Bring on Big Red.
GDT's HOBBIT-w/Doug Jones as every character! by KurtLockwood	Jul 12th, 2008 03:58:34 PM
I just saw HELLBOY II, which I liked, but I could tell it was Doug Jones in three different characers. Doug Jones is amazing but his freakishly elongated physique is so unique. If he's gonna be a main character like Abe, you can't use him two other times, it takes the viewer out of the action of the film because I found myself saying,"wait, that looks like Doug Jones again." I love Jones' work with Del Toro but I think over-use is repetitive and unimaginative.
Mountains of Madness by seanbo	Jul 12th, 2008 04:15:16 PM
'Just saw Hellboy II and noticed "old One" in troll market... Is this all we'll ever see of the "Mountains of MAdness""?
Doug jones... by Rameses	Jul 12th, 2008 04:16:11 PM
The guy deserves credit for being able to create a character whilst suffering under so much latex.And was great in Pans Labyrinth.But I agree , he's incredibly limited.He just seems to do the classic mime bit ,with his hands held up in front , palms forewards , whilst occasionly pointing one fingered forewards/beckoning and thats it.The faun , the thin pale man , Abe sapian , and the angel of death thingy are all pulling this stuff.That said , I thought his mtion capture for silver surfer was interesting , he kept it rather subtle compared to the silent movie acting we usually end up with.
Huggy Bear by lonestaricon	Jul 12th, 2008 05:04:23 PM
GDT has such passion and enthusiasm that I just want to hug the SOB and thank him for bringing these stories to the big screen. I can hardly wait to see the movie.
Phasing by Quint	Jul 12th, 2008 05:28:27 PM
That's a trick of the camera... there was about 4 feet between Guillermo and the wall. Sure, Mignola had to slide in, but it was still a grapple from behind.
Hellboy 2 sucked by StrokerX	Jul 12th, 2008 08:03:51 PM
I have every Hellboy comic so I can talk. I go on about it Harry's review so i wont bore you all here but yeah....Sucked balls
Hellboy 2 was solid by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 12th, 2008 08:37:04 PM
Not great but better than #1 by far imo.
GDT should do a movie version of... by mrfan	Jul 12th, 2008 09:28:32 PM
Jack Kirby's The Demon. Would love to see that adapted into film by him.
MOUNTAINS OF FUCKING MADNESS by theredtoad	Jul 12th, 2008 10:54:29 PM
This is all I ask for, Del Toro. I would even pass on the second Hobbit movie, for you to replace it with Mountains. Please before we are old, do Mountains!
Evil Chicken by Carl XVI Gustaf	Jul 12th, 2008 11:22:00 PM
Yeah, he did remind me of Tom Cruise: The Prince of Scientology.
Recycled Storyline from BLADE 2 by WhoDis	Jul 12th, 2008 11:38:49 PM
Instead of Vampires vs. Humans, it's Faerie world vs. Humans. Another otherworldly king who gets killed by his renegade son, while the daughter helps the good guy, who happens to be a hybrid of sorts (vampire/human, demon/human). A lot of wirework, jumping fights and then everyone who isn't a good guy, dies in the end.... anyway, enough busting balls... love love loved the visuals and artistry put into this, but left feeling kind of "meh" and I'm a huge Hellboy comics fan and a fan of the first Hellboy and of Del Toro in general.
Yeah, I noticed that too by kungfuhustler84	Jul 12th, 2008 11:59:25 PM
Luke Goss plays pretty much the exact same character as in Blade II, only a little less vicious.
I liked it, but understand the haters. by FluffyUnbound	Jul 13th, 2008 08:34:57 AM
Tonally it completely abandons the "dark, serious" tone that is fashionable for comic book films, in favor of a more exuberant, demented and over-the-top approach. There's a serious movie hidden in there, but it doesn't telegraph itself in the modern way with brooding moodiness or a dark and colorless palette. I particularly liked the way that each character, even many of the minor ones, faces a choice, and the results of that choice end up driving the plot - Liz has a choice, Abe has a choice, Red has multiple moments of choice, the Elf King has a choice, the Prince and Princess have choices. And it's very refreshing to see someone spend their $75 million on something more than CGI. But there are many elements of this film that are derivative, and if you don't like that, and expected more of a Sin City tone, I can see how you wouldn't like this movie.
GdT...Spielberg can go fuck hizzelf! by Kentucky Colonel	Jul 13th, 2008 09:36:10 AM
I was watching Jurassic Park of USA last night and was reminded of what an incredible filmmaker he used to be. Even X number of years later that movie was TIGHT, man. ever since he went "serious" he's lost it. INDY IV is a piece of shit and he should be ashamed. del Torro is our next, best hope for a fully realized geektastic celluloid hero. DO WHAT YOU DO, G, and I'll be there in full effect!!!
Jurassic Park by FluffyUnbound	Jul 13th, 2008 09:43:50 AM
I think Jurassic Park is a poor example to use of Spielberg's greatness, because it's basically just a shot-for-shot film version of the book. If it's tight, it's because every once in a while Crichton used to hit a story out of the park. But ET and Close Encounters are so tight they make Jurassic Park look like Madonna's snatch. Those are the examples to use, really.
Hellboy II was fan-fuckin'-tastic. by rbatty024	Jul 13th, 2008 09:54:13 AM
Caught it last night and I thought it was better than the first, which I really enjoyed. A lot more humor this time around. Visually it was absolutely stunning. I wanted more of the Angel of Death.
dturing had it right by Le Vicious Fishus	Jul 13th, 2008 10:37:53 AM
The film was simply too short. I immensely enjoyed it, mind you, but it felt overly edited--too rushed. HB2 needed a good 30-45 minutes longer running time. Looking forward to the director's cut...
HB II was great. by Kid Idioteque	Jul 13th, 2008 01:57:40 PM
I didn't love the first, but this one fixed the problems that the first one had (aka crappy dialogue/melodrama, etc..)
Yeah OK cause this one had no melodrama by StrokerX	Jul 13th, 2008 02:41:21 PM
The whole Hellboy/Liz relationship is SO unbelievable. Them arguing felt so forced. I'm beginning to hate ms. selma....it's probably not her fault. It's the writers for adding the love angle in. my mind explodes in the potential of what and actual Hellboy movie could be like. Cant believe that in 2 Hellboy movies theres not a single shot of a wierd statue or shadow and an ominous voice whispers "death"...or somthing like that....i agree what one TBr said about the creature designs looking like leftovers from Pans
Just saw it. by DoctorWho?	Jul 13th, 2008 06:31:42 PM
Pretty cool. Not as fantastic as I expected after checking out Mori's review. It was played up for laughs a bit too much for my tastes. I wasn't expecting that. I was entertained. But in the first 15 minutes there was all these sight gags in the background along with the funny "couple in love" argument played for yuk-yuk's. And of course the Barry Manilow stuff...reminded me of Spidey 3 and trying to get too cutesy. The first HB had some of that too but was usually blended in service of the story. HB and the Prince' battle at the end was visually stunning. I would have prefered less 'spectacle' and more back story and development on the prince and his world. And how about that kid Hellboy at the beginning...kind of goofy.
I'm nervous about The Hobbit 2 by Glamour Fairy	Jul 13th, 2008 07:36:00 PM
But I think it's in the right hands if there ever was. I can't wait to see Gandalf the Grey again and how he will figure into the second film.
I wish he had the chance to make more and more movies.. by Aeghast	Jul 13th, 2008 08:29:41 PM
..more often too. Or get him cloned or something. Like Christopher Nolan.. we need cloning technology and we need it now LOL
STROKER X- you are right by 11ZOMBIES	Jul 13th, 2008 09:05:42 PM
You are the only other person I've ever heard these opinions from other than me and my lady. I'm not saying that GDT isn't talented- he certainly is, watch "The Devil's Backbone" and there is no denying it. However, his first Hellboy film hurt me. Reading the reviews and synopses of "The Golden Army" hurt even worse. A Hellboy movie that is ACTUALLY true to the themes and ideas of the comic series would be mind blowing.
Just finished watching Hellboy 2 a couple of hours ago. by rev_skarekroe	Jul 13th, 2008 10:54:13 PM
It's really good. Much better than the first. And guys, if you made a Hellboy movie that was shot like one of Mignola's comics, it wouldn't work. It'd come out like a French arthouse film and it'd be unintentionally silly.
Has GDT read The Hobbit? by AntoniusBloc	Jul 14th, 2008 01:26:17 AM
Is that why he needs ten days off? Not that i've seen many, but in the few interviews i've come across, he never mentions Tolkien, he never mentions any love for the stories, never mentions characters, he just says he wants to respect the world PJ created? Then mix it with his vision? What about the source material? Still not sure about this choice.
The Battle of the Five Armies by KurtLockwood	Jul 14th, 2008 02:36:36 AM
Hey Del Toro, if you don't make the climactic battle of The Hobbit just fucking PWN then please don't bother showing up. My money's on you but don't let us Tolkienites down, man. And oh yeah, if PJ insists on you using super slo-mo every five minutes of film like he does, wait until he's out of the room and switch it back.
Heh, rev_skarekroe by 11ZOMBIES	Jul 14th, 2008 08:44:59 AM
"It'd come out like a French arthouse film and it'd be unintentionally silly." Yes it would- if you shot it like a French arthouse film(not sure why you'd do that though). A movie shot like one of Mignola's comics- done by someone with a vision of how to bring that imagery to life- would be awe inspiring.
GDT and the magic watch by wokethebaby	Jul 14th, 2008 10:46:24 AM
Quint, thanks for explaining how Mingnola got behind GDT for that hug, but now explain why GDT's watch and ring go from being on his left arm in the first 2 pictures to his right arm in the last picture. Weird, right?
11ZOMBIES by StrokerX	Jul 14th, 2008 10:57:01 AM
Love The Devils Backbone...still my fav GDT movie..Bought it the other day to get ready for Hellboy! Too bad it's still the superior film...horrible cover art tho. For Hellboy 2 they shouldve just adapted one of the comic stories like Wake The Devil or Conq Worm or Right Hand of Doom or Wolves of St. August even ! ANYTHING! sigh
That would have been cool... by 11ZOMBIES	Jul 14th, 2008 11:33:37 AM
Wolves of St. August... awesome... Imagine a Hellboy film with segments of different lengths, like reading one of the collected TPBs.... We can sigh all we want, but in the end, these are the "Hellboy" movies we got. Can't wait for the inevitable "reboot" in a decade, maybe we'll get our wish.
AntoniusBloc I am worried too by Samus Aran	Jul 14th, 2008 12:03:42 PM
I am so prepped and ready to hate this guy. I liked Pan's Labyrinth enough, but if people honestly think that movie proves his worthiness to direct The Hobbit, they are sorely mistaken. You are right AntoniusBloc, "Lord of the Rings" is not Peter Jackson's baby, it is Tolkien's just as the Bible is God's. I pray that Guillermo is the right man for this. He very well could be, but if he screws this one up- that's it. A tenth circle of hell should be created especially for Guillermo Del Toro just in case he creates the crap that I fear. Please be careful.
Hellboy beats Dave- Thank the gods! by knowthyself	Jul 14th, 2008 12:09:17 PM
Congrats Guillermo! Hellboy II out grosses the first films opening weekend AND kicks Eddie Murphies ass. Their is some justice in this world.
What silent Call of Cthulhu do you speak of? by DoctorWho?	Jul 14th, 2008 03:24:10 PM
I think it's sheer folly to try to adapt Lovecraft to film...but I'll take a peek. Who dared attempt this?
Guillermo is the shit by Rupee88	Jul 14th, 2008 04:12:44 PM
I don't love the Hellboy films, but he is cool to make them...Pan's Labyrinth was very special of course..Blade 2 was good for a studio popcorn movie type film...haven't seen Devils Backbone or the others...but dig the guy.
Saw HB2... by conspiracy	Jul 14th, 2008 10:01:28 PM
Fun movie. Not Worthy of my Jizz Load as has been suggested by the prime reviewers around here...but a fun summer movie none the less. STILL..I'm not sure this guy is the right guy for Tolkien. Sure, The Hobbit is nowhere near as involved as Lord of the Rings, but Tolkien put so many small details in even this simple story that great restraint must be taken as not to miss the overall feel of the world he created. In some ways I am afraid GDT will make it nothing but Visual experience, a CGI wankfest if you will.
so guillermo is set to work for the next 20 years? by bacci40	Jul 15th, 2008 07:41:21 PM
there is no way one can hate a guy so tuned in to the fans...and hb 2 was fantastic...ok, so it wasnt exactly hellboy from the comic, but it was fun
GDT is just so damn cuddly! by REMcycle	Jul 15th, 2008 11:22:13 PM
I remember meeting him at the SXSW screening of Hellboy at the Paramount a few years back and he was just so friendly and laid back and ready to mix it up with his fans. We spoke for a moment about his other films and talked about how the studio hadn't even seen the film he was about to show us and you could sense his nervousness. Still, it was an inspired film and one of the best comic films made yet. I'm not sure if I trust him with The Hobbitt just yet, but can't wait to see his direction mixed with WETA's handiwork. A good time to be a fanboy, indeed!
I am Quintus Arrius... by Quintus_Arrius	Jul 17th, 2008 01:55:47 PM
... I think... > .. yes, Indeed I am. Hail!
by Quintus_Arrius	Jul 17th, 2008 01:57:45 PM
Yes... Yes, yes indeed I am.
Last! by morGoth	Jul 17th, 2008 04:36:26 PM
Heh...haven't done one of these in a while. Oh yeah, all hail PJGDT...the Hobbit rocks!
Sorry, HB2 was a huge disappointment by BeatsMe	Jul 17th, 2008 10:00:10 PM
I liked the first one, had a nice low-key comic-book feel, and a truly scary villain. The script for this one was awful. Most bizarrely overrated film of the year.

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