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Moriarty On WALL-E!

Currently higher than 2001 on IMDB by Gwai Lo	Jul 7th, 2008 09:47:18 PM

Which is of course by Gwai Lo	Jul 7th, 2008 09:47:54 PM
irrelevant, but I wanted to beat you First Monkeys to the punch
Hmm -- you sound more positive about this movie now, Mori by Speed Fricassee	Jul 7th, 2008 09:59:36 PM
When i talked to you about it a few weeks ago, you didn't seem to have your mind made up on it yet (and you had seen it twice at that point). You weren't waiting to see what others thought about the film before committing to your opinion, were you? ;-)
Mori, the problem with the humans on the Axiom is that by IndustryKiller!	Jul 7th, 2008 10:04:07 PM
They simply aren't very interesting. They serve a message more than they serve themselves as actual characters. I think that Stanton could have gotten the message across just as loud and clear while continueing to concentrate on the real dramatic meat of the story, that of Wall-E and Eve. It's still a fantastic film, and Im not kidding when I say that Wall-E is probably my favorite Pixar character thus far, but that nagging flaw keeps it on just this side of a classic.
Great review, Mori by Nasty In The Pasty	Jul 7th, 2008 10:06:43 PM
The best film of 2008, hands-down, and Ben Burtt deseves an Oscar nomination for Best ACTOR, not just Sound Design (which is a shoo-in).
Me and my lady friend by Series7	Jul 7th, 2008 10:11:42 PM
Were wondering what a fat person was going to think about this movie. SO I was talking to my boss and he was telling me how he thought the movie was overly preachy.....I know that wasn't the main point of the movie, but its kind of a like an F U to fat and lazy people, though most skinny lazy people won't realize it. I need to go see this in theaters again soon, it was soo good. Also amazing Peter Gabriel song at the end, he has a pretty awesome set of songs.
Sorry to derail this talkback, but... by Tarantinoholic	Jul 7th, 2008 10:13:40 PM
Someone snuck into "The Dark Knight" with a camera-phone and took a bunch of pictures, including a couple of shots of Two-Face!!! Beware, (slight-ish) spoilers abound! http://tinyurl.com/6egdqn
"Somebody, sometime, is making THE BLACK CAULDRON" by chrth	Jul 7th, 2008 10:14:19 PM
Heh. Awesome.
right on brotha by T 1000 xp professional	Jul 7th, 2008 10:14:56 PM
the non humans had to show the humans how to live and love.... i'll say it once again..One of the best sci fi movies ever(just on robotics design alone), btw so much love towards 2001 without being a ripoff, just a shared love that i felt throughout.
So it's a ship populated by Baron Harkonnen? by chrth	Jul 7th, 2008 10:16:05 PM
Is there spice?
Industry Killer by T 1000 xp professional	Jul 7th, 2008 10:18:28 PM
I thought the humans worked best that way...Their lack of character served it's purpose very well. I felt that the humans' void personalities is a result of a lack of character molding, life experiences would've brought them...Watcha think? ;)
One thing...where did the babies come from? by Nasty In The Pasty	Jul 7th, 2008 10:19:38 PM
Considering that the humans didn't seem interested in dating, how did they make babies? Were they just cultivated, Matrix-style?
Making the Black Cauldron might be a good thing by chrth	Jul 7th, 2008 10:19:41 PM
Disney animation was struggling before the Black Cauldron. Sure, they were passable (Robin Hood, Fox and Hound), but they were nowhere as good as the older ones. But Black Cauldron caused Disney to reinvent their animation, and look what it got us: Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King. I mean, Christ-on-a-cross, that's a fantastic run there. Sadly, Hunchback had issues. Mulan also wasn't as popular (although it is my personal favorite from the 90s). But my point is this: that run was more than worth Black Cauldron. Now, Pixar hasn't produced anything along the likes of Fox and Hound or Robin Hood yet. But it's bound to happen. And when it does, well, hopefully we'll get lucky and there will be a Black Cauldron. Because the end result was brilliance.
The streak ended awhile ago by Rupee88	Jul 7th, 2008 10:22:25 PM
I mean artistically speaking...I suppose you are talking about the streak of box office success. That will go on as long as they have good marketing and the movies appeal to a wide audience.
As one who is perpetually struggling with his weight by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Jul 7th, 2008 10:22:59 PM
I took no offense to the character designs of the Axiom inhabitants. In fact I just went "yup, that's what we're all turning into." The ones who get angry and think they're being made fun of are generally life-long victims and still think the world is the kid sitting behind them in fifth grade calling them hurtful names.
By the way, NOBODY seems to give love to Kurtzman by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Jul 7th, 2008 10:25:59 PM
Harvey Kurtzman and Wally Wood in Issue NUMBER ONE of Mad (when it was still a comic book) back in the 50's did a very similar story called "Blobs". I suggest anybody who likes Wall-E to check it out and see that people have been warning us about this for over 50 years now. Plus, it's just beautifully drawn and deliciously silly.
I'd put money on by Series7	Jul 7th, 2008 10:26:23 PM
the first movie made after John Lasseter death to be the first big Pixar bomb. Not to be mean, but can't you just see it. OH Pixar's lost its magic man, they can't work without its leader and so forth and so on.
Worth the wait. by Zarles	Jul 7th, 2008 10:27:01 PM
Well done, Mori! My niece is a Pixar fiend, too, and I can't WAIT to take her to go see Wall-E. I've seen it once already, and while it rocked my very adult world, I can't possibly imagine what it must be like to see these movies as a child. Me, I'm looking at the beauty of the art/animation and listening to the symphonies of Ben Burtt's finest work yet, but to a kid, that stuff is REAL. It's real in the same way that Star Wars was real to us. These movies are going to change and affect the way the young people of today think and act, and while some choose to get pissy and resentful toward the supposed 'preachiness' of this movie, I welcome it. What's so awful about a message, for chrissakes? Does it always need to be about getting hit in the nuts with a football and falling on your bottom in some butterscotch? Anyway, great review. Oh, and get that Frozone figure back up the front of the shelf, man! It's the one that says 'Bad Motherfucker' on it.
TWO-FACE PICTURES LEAKED! by Tarantinoholic	Jul 7th, 2008 10:29:14 PM
Sorry for the double post, gang, I just thought that this might grab more attention. While I feel like kind of an asshat for posting this twice, I'm sure there's been more asinine shit posted in these talkbacks: http://tinyurl.com/6egdqn (kinda spoiler-y)
There was a Dilbert cartoon over a decade ago by chrth	Jul 7th, 2008 10:31:12 PM
that tackled the same subject. It involved potato chips and exploding fat people. Couldn't find it though.
A take on consumerism moreso than environmentalism by Loosejerk	Jul 7th, 2008 10:31:56 PM
Nuff said. Presto rocked too!
My only fear... by hopewell1	Jul 7th, 2008 10:32:06 PM
Is that Toy Story 3 is their first bomb. I shudder to think it, but the first two were just so damn good.
Ain't Nothin' Wrong With The Black Cauldron by The Funketeer	Jul 7th, 2008 10:33:31 PM
Aside from the fact that they shrunk Gurgi down to a little Ewok, it was a pretty good movie. People didn't like it back then because it was darker than what they came to expect from Disney.
And I bet it is tough working at Pixar by Rupee88	Jul 7th, 2008 10:33:47 PM
they do have high overall quality and that probbably doesn't come cheap...I mean I bet some of those animators work 80 hour weeks in crunch time. Of course maybe it is worth it and maybe Pixar execs plan ahead well enough so this doesn't happen often, but I bet those guys are worked hard.
Pixar didn't shout it in your face but it was there by G100	Jul 7th, 2008 10:36:26 PM
Pixar knew exactly what it was doing with the subtext but it WAS subtext. Pay close atention to the "Presedential" shots to see one hilarious example of what they were getting at. Certainly made me laugh as did the "stay the course" line. Of course these are tiny things in relation to the beauty and sheer overpowering Heart at the centre of this film. Wall-E is unashamedly and brashly about Love. The rest is icing. And if you think a film whose very soul is an incredibly well crafted Love story is somehow "subversive" or "unsuitable" for kids then you have my sincere pity.
Wall-E = Overrated by Orionsangels	Jul 7th, 2008 10:36:46 PM
Nice film, but it's not the amazing movie these guys are making it out to be
And, Yes... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 7th, 2008 10:37:38 PM
... "Presto" did indeed rock.
by Sakurai	Jul 7th, 2008 10:43:31 PM

Orionsangels = In need of some attention by Zarles	Jul 7th, 2008 10:43:43 PM
You against the world, man. You against the world. How's summer vacation so far?
Does anyone know if Pixar is hiring? by Series7	Jul 7th, 2008 10:44:13 PM
I have a lot of janitorial experience.
Not Really a Review...More of a Conversation. by Sakurai	Jul 7th, 2008 10:44:26 PM
But nonetheless a great write up. Well done Mori.
And yeah Wall-E is overrated by Rupee88	Jul 7th, 2008 10:45:18 PM
every other Talkback on the film has pointed this out with many people saying it was an ok, entertaining film, but far from great. And that is the truth...it was worth the price of admission but not in the same league as Toy Story 1 or 2 or Incredibles. It is just about as good as Kung Fu Panda...maybe a little better, but not much.
Cars Sucked Dingus by phaedrus007	Jul 7th, 2008 10:50:18 PM
For me, Cars was Pixar's Rock-a-doodle. I know it made heaps of money, but i hated that movie. i couldn't even finish it. Loved WallE though and I strongly disagree with those suggesting it's overrated.
I was asking myself the same thing, Nasty... by TheRealRatigan	Jul 7th, 2008 10:51:50 PM
...as soon as we saw the nursery. On the surface, the revelation of the nursery was functional, visual exposition that tells the audience that the Axiom hasn't been home to the same humans on board since it left Earth 700 years ago, information that's imparted more dramatically in the recurring motif of the gallery of Captains on the bridge. But to address our shared inference of the babies' origins, I believe the purpose was to subtly impart the fact that future generations were being harvested (in arguably the most efficient and practical way) for the survival of the species on board the Axiom, for the ostensible recolonization on Earth. This realization dawns in that moment of grownup emotional payoff when our knowledge of the nursery collides with the image of two humans, male and female, reawakening their own emotional instincts through the shared sense of human contact. To impart the significance of that carefully constructed moment with any more overtness would, I suspect, cross the line of trust that Moriarty refers to when he speaks about Pixar as a parent sharing the audience with his children.
Job Opportunity Warning by Ivan Alexeev	Jul 7th, 2008 10:58:42 PM
I met a guy from my college who works at Pixar. He's worked on Nemo and Incredibles. He ended up blowing out his wrist redoing and redoing and redoing the fallen tree that Dash runs under in the big chase scene. You can only see that tree for maybe a tenth of a second. Even with that, I doubt he would ever change jobs. Such is the price of perfection.
CARS was a love letter to America... by TheRealRatigan	Jul 7th, 2008 11:05:55 PM
...so it naturally reflects the tradition of the crass, simplified, sanitized, condescending and self-celebratory culture that's proudly and uniquely defined that great nation over any other.
...And WALL-E could have been perfect... by TheRealRatigan	Jul 7th, 2008 11:11:03 PM
...if it weren't so self-indulgently smug. And if the humans were all dead. But I'll admit that could have seemed even more smug. And okay, made everything else less funny. But it would have been a better movie.
Toshi is Three?? by Larry of Arabia	Jul 7th, 2008 11:19:28 PM
Wow, I've been reading this site for a long, long time.
Mori, Fred wants to know if Fred Willard(great name) was by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Jul 7th, 2008 11:20:12 PM
First choice to play CEO? Fred support all actors named Fred. Fred must honestly say though, that Fred thinks Wall-E is indeed overrated. Fred never understood love of Nemo either. Fred, truly, truly loved Incredibles and Toy Story though, and thinks they are superior to Wall-E. Fred think Pixar gets pass when they do not deserve it. CARS was not a good movie. It not bad. But it has one joke " Hi, my name is mater, as in tah-mater - without the tah" Fred wants to know if Mori really think Pixar not stumble on that?
There was dating by Dreamwriter	Jul 7th, 2008 11:20:34 PM
Before the lady was interrupted by Wall-E, she was talking to her friend about a series of bad dates she'd been on...
Wall-E and Jonny 5 BOTH look like E.T.... by blackmantis	Jul 7th, 2008 11:24:15 PM
...so who's stealing from whom?
Ha, it's funny ... by DeadPanWalking	Jul 7th, 2008 11:28:17 PM
Not only have I seen a surge in summer movie quality this year, but films like Wall-E and The Dark Knight are also raising the level of reviews on AICN. Interesting ...
great review mori by irrelevntelefant	Jul 7th, 2008 11:29:05 PM
my wife laughed at your office description (mine is more comic book oriented than animation) and the fact that I too have about 30 lbs I could drop. not going to lie though, there was a moment in the movie where I thought "a comfy chair, a computer and food on demand... how is that bad? 'Up' and 'Toy Story 3' are really going to just add to the already solid Pixar portfolio (wife has seen storyboards of both and cried at both)
Shut The Fuck Up Donny by Project424	Jul 7th, 2008 11:33:46 PM
"still think the world is the kid sitting behind them in fifth grade calling them hurtful names."
"Anyone still making any comparisons between the character of WA by KurtLockwood	Jul 7th, 2008 11:37:20 PM
"...because WALL-E has a sweet, sunny human personality from the very start of the film, and it’s not the result of a malfunction, and they aren’t built the same. Johnny 5 was a military robot, if I remember correctly, and WALL-E is a garbage disposal. It’s just facile, and the truth seems to be that the design of WALL-E is pretty much based on what they needed him to do." Drew, I'm assuming you're indirectly calling me out on this one since I am the ONLY one who brought up previously that WALL E is a complete fucking rip off of JOHHNY 5. You're way off base with your points. I'm talking completely visual here ONLY. It doesn't matter what each robot's purpose was or who built it and how. I don't care if form follows function with WALL E, that's just an excuse. To wit, I guarantee you could design five different trash compactor robots that DON'T look like JOHNNY 5. If you google both robots YOU CANNOT GET AROUND THE OVERWHELMING LIKENESS. Yes, you can still enjoy the movie but I never expected you to be a Pixar design apologist, Drew. I can still like the movie's message, animation, etc. but design-wise PIXAR has to play by the same originality rules as everybody else, warm fuzzy movies or not, plagiarism is plagiarism and the producers of SHORT CIRCUIT have a legitimate lawsuit against PIXAR IMHO. Anyway, this was a lesser McWeeney fluff piece, 10 or so paragraphs of memoire-like essay mumbo jumbo until any actual reviewing gets on. Drew, I have a toddler, too, yes, the sun rises and set with him, but no one is coming here to read about your personal life. No offense. Jesus, does Ebert do this every single review? You've made some really great posts recently (TDK, HB2) and then you go right back to personal commentary of your life like you're Oprah or something. Drew, please for the love of God, we come here to read about movies please keep your reviews ABOUT MOVIES!
PUMPING IRON... by Wilclas	Jul 7th, 2008 11:37:26 PM
...is the way, folks. Take the first step, give it two weeks. You´ll feel the difference, I promisse. And you won´t come back to the fat dimension no more.
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Jul 7th, 2008 11:38:35 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
KurtLockwood by Stickman83	Jul 7th, 2008 11:47:43 PM
yeah... you're the ONLY one to have mentioned a likeness... HA! egocentric much? That has been tossed around too much, stop being so self-centered. and just so you know, we come here to DISCUSS movies, not just to read "a review"... any kind of insight is appreciated. if you don't like it, head right on to Rotten Tomatoes and read a hundred "real" reviews. But I guess I shouldn't pay attention to what you just said, since it's all just "defense" against the "indirect calling out". -- And fuck yeah, WALL-E is the best movie of the year so far!
Design Issues by MediaNerd	Jul 7th, 2008 11:49:33 PM
Have you guys ever seen some of the robots made at the tech schools and research labs? Sorry, but Wall-E is not dipping in J5's pool, they're both based off the most common and practical designs and the current state of robotics. Yep, there's some similarities, but that's cause they share the same real world daddies!
stickman by KurtLockwood	Jul 7th, 2008 11:52:22 PM
not egotistical. Check the previous wall e talkbacks, yes it was me and i can remember one other guy agreed with me so unless you can prove otherwise fuck off. Debate the movies not the small stuff.
Actually already had their BLACK CAULDRON... by BurnHollywood	Jul 7th, 2008 11:55:41 PM
I mean, can anyone here even remember the plots of BUGS LIFE or MONSTERS, INC?
it's God not god by mikey mike	Jul 7th, 2008 11:56:53 PM
will it kill you people to spell his name with a capital letter to show respect
Mistakes and Failures by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 7th, 2008 11:57:42 PM
Are rewarding. You learn from them and you don't repeat them. Pixar has to at some point make a film that doesn't find an audience, but so what they won't get shit canned if they do they will like all the films they have made thus far introduce something new that will get reused by others and they will learn from it. I certainly don't want them to get a god complexes. It will hurt them that much more. They remind me of Apple in the early days. Bill Gates somehow came in and they accepted with some terms in theyre favor. And yeah maybe maybe that could blow up in their face. Let's hope not. I think they spend more time figuring out a way to tell an entertaining story then they do animating and composting it and I think thats why it works. They lay that back bone down real good. They test it out and rework it. IT's like they as a studio say and think that the first script they develop is not finished no matter how good it sounds. It has to be tweaked up until the very end. It's not always about The Win. Sometimes it's reward enough to know you saw something through to the best of your abilities.
according to science by palinode	Jul 7th, 2008 11:58:15 PM
People who claim that Wall-E is overrated are wrong. Science has also proved that the world would benefit if those people were placed on a raft and pushed out to sea, where they could talk about how Wall-E wasn't all that great, and how it was just a bunch of stuff that happened that didn't mean anything, and that's why it wasn't a 'classic'.
Moriarty - Toshi ? by Miyamoto_Musashi	Jul 7th, 2008 11:59:05 PM
Just interested do you have a Japanese wife or just like Japanese names ?
They also understand the power of CGI by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 12:05:10 AM
and how you can control a preformance. When your doing that stuff real world via live action. So many facotrs come into play. You can't bring that taped footage up several months later and redo/rework something that seemed off to the same extent that you can with a digital actor. Your stuck with the number of takes you shot and the extent of that single person preformance and what and who they played off of. You can digitally tweak it a bit, but not with as much control as you can with a digital character. They understand that very well, and you know it's like toying with a car. They just keep changing/adding/removing this or that again and again till it works.
Mikey Mike And Miyamoto by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 12:05:14 AM
Tell you what, Mikey Mike... until he shows up and tells me how he likes his name capitalized, I'll stick with "god," thanks. And the wife's not Japanese, Miyamoto, but she is Argentinian, and we decided early on in the first pregnancy to just list names we liked from any culture, since we're already a bi-cultural household. Toshiro was an early favorite for both of us, and as much as I love the geek meanings of it (Mifune was a god), it's the literal meaning and the sound of it in general that won her over.
SpeedFricasse... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 12:06:44 AM
... nope. But I did wait to see it three times and really chew on it before writing so I could sort through my own feelings. On first viewing, it wasn't the film I expected. On second viewing, I started to see what film I think it is. And the third viewing just reinforced what I believe is the point, and also allowed me to really lose myself in the artistry of it all.
No worries by Speed Fricassee	Jul 8th, 2008 12:18:42 AM
I figured as much. I often need time to digest what I've seen, too. Nothing like a few weeks going by to see what truly does and does not stick with you. Good review, I'll catch this film this weekend.
What about HomoErectus by Taragor	Jul 8th, 2008 12:19:39 AM
Is the screening still on i dont see the post, sent u an email
Sorry I found the post my bad =/ by Taragor	Jul 8th, 2008 12:21:52 AM

I hope they do a Fantasia of sorts by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 12:27:55 AM
We all talk and think about death and the possibility of a new plane of existence revealed to us if it's there. I think it is. I've heard about a brilliant light and also a sweeping darkness that closes in on those who have lived unethically. Heard it described as visually as a door closing in on the light devouring it completely as it makes it sweep towards the person heading toward the light source. A sense of impending doom and dread the likes of which they have never experienced even in the moment of their painful death consumes them and grows as it comes closer. Somehow they know that the black endless void closing in on them destroying the light surrounding them- intends to consume them for all eternity into it's neverending emptiness. The sense of time aspect is an instantaneous change after death. It no longer feels like time does to us now. It isn't like waking up experiencing a day and going to sleep and feeling that small amount of passing time between. Theres a foreverness about it. It's very overwhelming. So after you experience death and you leave your body- like removing a glove from you hand and you become what you always were and somehow your very familiar to it all. You somehow instantly know that in that darkness is endless nothingness. The only good thing I guess. Is knowing that all who have experienced the black sweep closing in on them- Still barely manage to get to the light when begging God to save them. I have no faith in the man made versions of god. But I do after hearing many NED cases belive in a single true version of God, and god wants you to live a honest life a pure life. If your unhappy with how you conduct yourself or ashamed of it surely god will be as well and you will see the darkness and that alone should scare the shit out of you. Back to point. Pixar should try to realize an alternate place of being. A true escape from the world of reality with it's visual backbone being the musical score. The next fantasia, but it should be a series of stories of the conventional fair it should be a POV experience through out a fantastic journey to another realm of existence. If anyone has it in them to realize this it's them. They could make it work.
I mean "shouldn't" be a series of stories by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 12:32:48 AM
Not "should" Like a videogame and how controlling and being trapped inside the character playing in the games world gives the player a different experience. A stronger sense of being there and doing those things in the game, but like a movie that does that.
The Message by MediaNerd	Jul 8th, 2008 12:33:24 AM
I'm curious what viewers take away from this movie as its message. Most of the complaints I've heard about Wall-E is that it preaches environmental issues too much and rides the liberal/gore coattails. Personally, if environment issues were discussed, I see it as the D story, not the main push as its been criticized. Primary story was a general "Love Conquers All", B-story being a "Appreciate the World Around You, don't be so narrow minded, anti-tunnel vision". C-Story "Think for yourself, don't blindly follow programs" To me, the plant was a mcguffin or "great whats it" that in the end, holds no true value beyond spinning the wheels.
Mori... by My friends call me Killjoy	Jul 8th, 2008 12:38:44 AM
What's your take on the inclusion of live action footage in the film? I personally don't like the decision, but it didn't detract from my viewing pleasure. At first, I thought, maybe they had animated sequences planned, but time became a factor and the choice was by necessity. I don't know. It could be confusing for some people as to whether or not we're supposed to believe that we will become animated in 700 years. I know that's not the case, but I already read that somewhere. Thoughts?
Agree with Moriarty... by Sidius	Jul 8th, 2008 12:42:15 AM
Pixar's bound to "decode the loom" eventually. Just hope it's not anytime too soon. Although I agree with some and was not a big fan of Cars. Cars IMO showed the first cracks in the process. After seeing Wall-E it's clear that making the humans so much less evolved than the robots was a key decision made very early in the process. It's bound to be the eventual effect of humans becoming more and more isolated from each other and relying more and more on technology to relay their emotions. (Hell I'm typing this hoping to rile up a debate from the comfort of my living room sofa while watching an Extreme Engineering about the world's largest indoor ski-slope - if that's not Wall-E ish I don't know what is) Eventually the AI surpasses the human - it's one of the main building blocks of most sci-fi mythology. (I'm sorry but Wanted was such a huge, dissapointing, over-rated piece of shit I immediately decided that "Decode the Loom" was the new "Nuke the Fridge")
mikey mike - His name? by Fleet	Jul 8th, 2008 12:49:27 AM
Im not sure if Gods NAME is actually "God"... Because all the other Gods and Goddesses I've read about have their own individual names... So yeah... get off your fuck'n high horse - I don't care if you think you have a monopoly on "the truth", either...
I loved Wall-E by PDepew2181	Jul 8th, 2008 12:49:32 AM
I've seen it twice, and I might go a third time, though with The Dark Knight coming up, that might not be possible. For all the people with the Johnny 5 comparisons, so what? I mean, really, so what? If you judge everything in this world solely by appearances, I feel sorry for you. Besides, it's still just a friggin' movie. Isn't there something more important to you than that? You're may have also been the first person to say that here, but you should go check out the IMDB boards for this movie. The trolls have been out in heavy force since the movie's opening. As far as the "message," people are seeing what they want to see. If they want to see this as a propaganda, global warming or environmental movie, that's how they'll see it. If they've even actually seen it, that is. Glenn Beck, anyone? If people go into this movie with an open mind, they can draw whatever conclusion they desire. And as far as the fat people thing goes, I consider myself obese. Not just fat, but obese. You know how offended I was by everyone being fat? Not at all. I understood the point that they made and I also am smart enough to realize I have no one but myself to blame for being obese. Imagine that, huh? Personal responsibility. Whatever happened to that, I wonder?
OK, seriously, someone please tell me... by PDepew2181	Jul 8th, 2008 12:50:56 AM
How do I get spaces between what I intend to be paragraphs on these boards? Everything gets put into one big wad of text. I guess I've bene off this board for too long.
...Oh yeah... by Fleet	Jul 8th, 2008 12:51:20 AM
...And if you were REALLY showing respect, mikey mike - You'd be saying "His name"... not "his name"...
Um....... by somethingcool	Jul 8th, 2008 12:52:46 AM
I personally thought Ratatouille was the bad movie not Cars. At least Cars had Mater. Ratatouille was just boring.
Yeah, Pixar's great blah blah by Logo Lou	Jul 8th, 2008 12:52:48 AM
Monster's Inc was instantly forgettable. It was like a Disney direct to video sequel bad. Cars was not even worth seeing. So, yeah, they're still doing better than any other studio, but their not magic (hell, neither was early Disney. PINOCCHIO? C'mon! Lame!)
Cars hate? by My friends call me Killjoy	Jul 8th, 2008 12:59:54 AM
Sure, it's predictable, but it's very well executed. I prefer it to Monster's Inc. or A Bug's Life anyday.
Thank you for the history of Disney by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren	Jul 8th, 2008 01:02:45 AM
and for the week-late "review". Can any reviewer on AICN just get to the Goddamned point? If you want to write a thesis, go right ahead. Just label it as such and not as a review.
I don't think when Crying out for God's help by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 01:03:02 AM
that the word "God" has anything to do with it working. I think the concept your aware of and the association that it clearly represents to you as you understand it is understood, and if your genuine about it. Then maybe you wont be consumed by the darkness. I don't think I have a monopoly or true knowledge of what happens. I was an atheist for a long long time. I just know for sure that we don't really know until we die. I've done enough bad things in life to know that darkness will certainly creep up on me as I head towards the light. I just hope I'm forgiven for my wrongs, and I'm trying to lead a much cleaner life in hopes that I don't get consumed in whatever that darkness is. My dad was in serious accident he was hit by a plane, He died and was revived. He saw his body, saw the light- said he finally found what he was chasing for all them years, but he also said he wasn't ready and he came back. He saw no darkness. Like I said I think it all depends on how you live. Is this experience your own bodies natural response and system to handle dying? Who knows.
Live Action & Rat & by MediaNerd	Jul 8th, 2008 01:04:00 AM
I thought the live action clips were a very smart way to show how much humanity had loss by giving up all functions to machines. Over generations they ceased to be human anymore. I thought that was brilliant personally, plus its Fred Willard, how can you go wrong!? I really liked Rat. and think it was the first Pixar movie clearly not aimed at kids (though i would argue Incredibles leaned that way). Honestly, I would think a kid would hate that movie. But as someone who is into art, Rat. spoke to me about the process and passion, and the end critic speech was one of the best speechs of the year imo. And for PDepew2181... use the old < br > minus the spaces to add breaks, double it up for paragraph spaces
PDepew < BR > by MediaNerd	Jul 8th, 2008 01:05:28 AM
It also works in titles apparently...my bad
Your dad was hit by a PLANE? by Fleet	Jul 8th, 2008 01:05:36 AM
Can he fly, or was it driving along the ground?
"At least CARS had Mater." by TheRealRatigan	Jul 8th, 2008 01:08:18 AM
Um....Do you really mean that? Or was that just the opacity of the written word getting in the way of your sarcasm?
MediaNerd by somethingcool	Jul 8th, 2008 01:10:00 AM
I thought that was precisely the problem with Ratatouille. I saw it with my four year old brother who didn't get what was happening at all.
Stengah... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 01:11:38 AM
... if only I cared. See, I'll write what I write when I write it. And if it's only of value on the day of release, then IMO it's not of value. And if you want the standard formula of "synopsis + simple thumb's up or thumb's down," that ain't me. Sorry if this one wasn't timed perfectly for you, but maybe you can take that HELLBOY 2/DARK KNIGHT double-header, average out how many days early those were, cross it with this review which is a week and a few days post-release, and it all averages out to who gives a fuck.
Holy crap Kurt Lockwood! by half vader	Jul 8th, 2008 01:12:42 AM
Yes ego. You went back through all the TBs did you? YOU check 'em, and feel the heat of embarrassment redden your face. For a YEAR now the Johnny 5/Wall-e thing has been an AICN joke because it was so fucking ubiquitous! Man, you are the real deal. And AICN has had reviewers (especially Harry) including personal stuff for 10 fucking years you dolt! TBers who've been coming here for any length of time know the deal, and they accept it. I hope your kid gets its brains from mum. BurnHollywood, yes, some of us remember the plot of Seven Samurai! Jeez. And it's not like Monsters is hard to remember either.
He was walking on the tarmack at by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 01:14:07 AM
Edwards Airforce base with a gun slung over his shoulder. A plane was coming in, he ducked down figuring the wing would go over him without any issues and it hit his gun and sent him flying 200 yards or so. He broke his ribs, dislocated his shoulder, punctured his left lung, and his heart stopped on the way to the hospital.
CARS by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 01:19:44 AM
Definitely not a fave for me, but I'm (A) amazed at the hypnotic impact it has on kids and (B) able to appreciate what it's saying thematically even if it's not resonant for me. I know a lot of people who mourn the culture of Route 66 and who believe that the drive is more important than the destination, and when I was growing up, that philosophy was much more important. I can understand why it meant something to Lasseter, and I think if you accept that theme, the film has some real weight and heft.
Kurt... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 01:21:06 AM
... let me assure you that I wasn't remotely thinking of you when it came to the WALL-E/Short Circuit thing. Specifically, I was referring to a conversation in our chat room where someone seemed determined to prove they were the same design EXACTLY, when even a cursory side-by-side examination puts that lie to rest.
Stengah: you totally took a bullet for me. by YouAreAllMyBastardChildren	Jul 8th, 2008 01:22:35 AM
Thank you, brother. And, no, idiots, Stengah and I are not the same person hiding behind different TB handles. I'm sure Mori could confirm that. Ya know, Patriot Act and all.
What Next Moriarty? by BartholomewNeff	Jul 8th, 2008 01:23:34 AM
Hey Moriarty, what are you gonna tell us next? What last years best picture was at the Oscars? Who won the Superbowl in February? Hehehe.
It's true... by Bob Loblaw Law Blog	Jul 8th, 2008 01:23:54 AM
Pixar really does seem to inundate your life, especially when young ones are involved!! Thanks for the review, Mori... while I realize some people don't like the length, that's one of the reasons I read AICN's reviews. Just one question, though... How in the hell do you spend $50 at the concession stand? I mean, I know you live in L.A., but I mean, I saw "21" at the theater at the Universal City Walk... and the popcorn wasn't THAT much expensive than here in Oregon. Now, if you saw it at the Alamo Drafthouse South and got a couple of pizzas, popcorn, nachos, potato stuffers, several brews, etc... then yeah, I can understand. ;)
Bob... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 01:29:03 AM
... I don't actually buy things from the concession stand, so that was a nonsensical figure that may well be hyperbole.
I can understand why it gets to you, Drew... by TheRealRatigan	Jul 8th, 2008 01:31:36 AM
...but I'm starting to see a pattern of you deigning to answer back at these snarky turds. It's occurred to me that you can't, nay won't continue to work for the appraisal and spite of the likes of these trolls, and your exit will be Ain't it Cool's loss. I don't want to see that happen. So if it counteracts the hatefulness, keep in mind that those of us who respect and welcome what you contribute with your time spent here make up a much bigger number of those reading than the ones who exist to poke you with sticks every chance they get.
TheRealRatigan... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 01:35:00 AM
... I'm also having conversations here with the non-trolls. And I don't think disagreeing with me makes someone a troll, either. I just happen to be home this evening working on my review for THE BROTHERS BLOOM and my MUMMY 3 editing room visit, so it's easy to respond right now. But thanks for the kind words.
WALL-E = Pixar's THX-1138 by KnightShift	Jul 8th, 2008 01:46:17 AM
But WALL-E is a hella lot more accessible/understandable than THX-1138 was. Humanity seduced into a buying and spending stupor, comfortable but without that thing called individual soul. Ironic that it takes a robot to give it back to mankind. "I don't want to survive... I want to LIVE!" That line alone should make WALL-E required viewing for anyone trying to full appreciate the human condition, right up there with Schindler's List, A Clockwork Orange and The Shawshank Redemption.
You're welcome, Mori... by TheRealRatigan	Jul 8th, 2008 01:52:45 AM
...It makes me happy to know that gleeful as the thought might be for the Stengahls, Bastards and Bartholomews, you aren't helplessly compelled to acknowledge them. Just the same, I'm sure you know you don't actually work for them, so you don't need to defend the product of your efforts. Especially since this isn't your day job. I'm not above calling you out myself now and then. But I try to remind myself that you don't owe me anything, and you're only doing anything you do for the site because you want to...it's a hobby, not an occupation, and it doesn't come first.
I keep getting shit by Bricktops hammer	Jul 8th, 2008 01:53:47 AM
From my sisters that I went to see this alone. So what if I'm 32 and unemployed and like cartoons. Fuck! Awesome flick
Mori, any idea what Brad Bird's doing next by Bricktops hammer	Jul 8th, 2008 02:00:40 AM
Please say Incredibles sequel.
The message by Volstaff	Jul 8th, 2008 02:00:58 AM
For me the message of the film was the love story. I recognised some of the subtext in there sure, but I think that was more part of the sci- fi bit of the story than anything political. I have never been morbidly obese or anything, but definitely overweight in the past. I was kinda taken aback by some people saying the film made fun of fat people. I think that says more about the people who were "offended" than the film itself. Overhyped? I dunno, I've seen this movie twice, and really am hoping to see it one more time in a theatre before it ends its run. I think I enjoyed it even more the second time through, it let me appreciate the other nuances in the film, like the nods to 2001, the "lesser" characters, etc.. Right now, to me, it might be my favorite Pixar movie in terms of emotional content and connection ( though Toy Story 2 is up there too. Man the sequence with Jessie'e flashback and the singing by Sarah Clachlan gets me every damn time) of all time. I wouldn't say Cars was their Black Cauldron either, but it wasn't far from it.What saved that one for me was the nostalgia factor like others said. I'm old enough I can still remember a time when I was a kid, and we'd get in the folk's beat up old station wagon, just to go for a drive and a picnic at the park.
A little dishearteniong by Volstaff	Jul 8th, 2008 02:09:15 AM
That a crappy film like Hancock that was written by the marketiing dept. made more money than WallE over the weekend. BTW, when I saw it for the second time, it was a double feature day for me.My first movie was " Wanted".Now you wanna talk about a film that's all sizzle and no steak, that rips off other movies..Sheesh.. I had a feeling that'd be how it was going in, which is why I saw WallE second.
Orionsangels...hates his inner child by bacci40	Jul 8th, 2008 02:14:40 AM
how anyone could walk out of wall-e not being totally amazed and at one with the pixar universe is beyond me...and i agree with volstaff...its sad that hollywood is still all about one thing...the green...the suits are all kicking back and smoking their doobies and laffing at the fanboys over hancock...see, they can make a shit movie, and it will still make loads of money...same with wanted...stay with comic book canon? fuck that...just take the basic plot, fuck everything else up, and it will still make gobs of money, thanks to video game generation
I still say that CARS sticks out for all the wrong reasons. by TheRealRatigan	Jul 8th, 2008 02:16:22 AM
But if Moriarty gets it on the genuine merit of its sentiment, then ironically it sounds like most affectionate movie Lasseter's made yet. But to me it still looks and feels like a harmless, pointless parody of itself.
Moriarty is fat... by Frogurt	Jul 8th, 2008 02:18:12 AM
OK... this is kinda OT but really out of context. Mori was/is fat! For 10 years or whatever I've always pictured him as this super rake guy based on his cartoon. Anyway. Carry on.
half vader=half brain by KurtLockwood	Jul 8th, 2008 02:18:57 AM
I've been coming to this site for over ten years, half wit. From Harry, I'm okay with all the ancillary anecdotes, it suits him. Yes, I have checked the talkbacks and if you go through the reviews of late, I again challenge you to find someone holding this position. Maybe it was in an unrelated talkback, I don't post in every single talk back unlike yourself. Btw, I'm even ok with Drew peppering his posts with Harry-style musings. But ten (or more) paragraphs before the review even begins is egregious. Drew has the reputation of being "the serious critic" here, well, then give us the goods instead of holding the review hostage while we wader through ten(!) paragraphs of "Dear Diary..."
oops by KurtLockwood	Jul 8th, 2008 02:21:02 AM
"wade" that is.
CARS IS FANTASTIC. by Redfive!	Jul 8th, 2008 02:27:29 AM
I wish people would quit saying Cars is a weak Pixar Film.Its not. The message about enjoying the drive in life and not trying to get to the finish line is meaningful,Lightning and Maters friendship is great and the thing looks absolutly georgious on bluray. Sure the storys basicly doc hollywood,but it was told effectivly and its better then anything Dreamworks or Fox has done.
And the pursed-lipped, busybody, humorless schoolmarm award by samsquanch	Jul 8th, 2008 02:31:17 AM
goes to... Mikey Mike! Take a bow, you dweeb. Just goes to show, there ain't nothing funnier than someone with no sense of humor. CARS sucked. WALL-E rules.
god by Bricktops hammer	Jul 8th, 2008 02:35:11 AM

Fat people need to lighten up by joe90025	Jul 8th, 2008 02:37:52 AM
I didn't interpret the humans as fat & lazy but rather reverted to having a baby-like form & dependent -- a result of living in a low gravity environment and a lifestyle on autopilot. So when the captain takes his first baby steps it's a step in evolution -- thus the 2001 nod. I just don't want Harry to feel guilty for being such a fat bastard. bwahahaharr
Whoa Whoa Whoa... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 02:39:26 AM
... how are any of you hating on MONSTERS INC? I've seen the shit out of all the Pixar films. If I'm honest about how many times I've seen them, adding up all the times I've walked in and out of a room where one is playing, sitting down with Toshi or my wife, waking up to the TV playing one... whatever... I've probably seen each film a bajillion times. So that's a lot. And MONSTERS INC? That's a damn good movie. In particular, the work between Boo and Sully is insane. It's magic. It's as good as animation performance will ever get. The rendering may get slicker, and performance capture may get more sophisticated, but whatever you do, you're not going to get better performance than what they did in that film between Boo and Sully. It's magic. It's ET and Elliot magic. It's Iron Giant and Hogarth magic. They're real. Their relationship is real. There is a connection that you feel from the performance between them. All of it manipulated wildly, of course. It's animation. It's manipulation by nature. And that's the beauty of what they did in that film. I think Sully is as good as anything the guys from Termite Terrace did, and Boo is just a real little girl. Absolutely believable. If you're beating up on that film, go watch it again. Hype is long since gone, so set that aside. Just enjoy it for what it is. A crazy ass comedy adventure in a monster world with a beautiful friendship at the center of the film.
ROCK-A-DOODLE by PacmanFever	Jul 8th, 2008 02:54:17 AM
That film was a Samuel Goldwyn thing, whose other animated films weren't exactly classics, and it was also a Don Bluth thing, and a lot of films he was involved in weren't that great either. Not much of a comedown.
Quadfather09 by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 03:18:18 AM
You just prove my long-stated theory that every movie is someone's favorite movie. Every single one. Even freakin' ROCK-A-DOODLE.
Hype is unnecessary by There Are Twelve Models	Jul 8th, 2008 03:18:58 AM
It would be nice if Pixar had a female protagonist one of these days. Hell, even Disney swapped out occasionally with Pinocchio. Pixar's pattern is standard for Hollywood: the token girl. I guess we were lucky in Incredibles to get a mom in addition to a girl. They're so good at what they do I hate to see them limit themselves. I always enjoy Drew's reviews, but this time the multiple paragraphs about action figures or whatever had me wondering if he was trying to make some kind of point about commercialism... Nope. Probably a case of "I didn't have the time to write a short review so I wrote a long one instead". Why does Hollywood keep throwing $150 million at pieces of shit like Wanted and Hancock when there are genuine classic scifi properties just lying around for the taking? Or if you insist on video games, somebody go cap George Lucas and toss $150 mil at KOTOR. I pray to Zool for this daily.
Also, Fox and Hound was my favorite by There Are Twelve Models	Jul 8th, 2008 03:19:49 AM
when I was a lil tyke.
Mori by SnakesOnABicycle	Jul 8th, 2008 03:29:59 AM
Pretty much every Pixar movie is the same. Main character is in a certain enviorment, wants to break free, goes on a journey, or just has an adventure in general, meets new friends, but realizes home is where the heart is. Happened in Wall-E, The Incredibles, Cars, Finding Nemo, Toy Story, etc. et fucking cetra. Don't get me wrong, I agree that Pixar harkens back to a quality we haven't seen since Beauty And The Beast/The Lion King era Disney, even to it's golden age of old uncle Walty. But there's a reason they're so great at telling a story... BECAUSE ITS BEEN THE SAME FUCKING ONE FOR OVER A DECADE!
I bought The Black Cauldron for my three year old... by Boba Fat	Jul 8th, 2008 03:40:59 AM
yesterday - it was in a sale - is it really that bad? I was hoping on it being a lost gem.
The Black Cauldron... by Bob Loblaw Law Blog	Jul 8th, 2008 04:01:28 AM
is not bad. I really liked it as a kid. That said, it was just really off the mark for a Disney film... more serious, darker tones... I mean, it came right after "The Fox and the Hound" and right before "The Great Mouse Detective." It's not the kind of silly cartoon with talking animals that everyone could take their kids to go see. In fact, if I remember correctly, Jeffrey Katzenberg (who was the head of Disney back then) made the animators cut out a bunch of scenes because he was afraid the movie would get a PG or higher rating. In any case, it was a box-office failure, and like "Song of the South," Disney quietly tried to shove it in the vault and moved on. But, I guess they finally decided that, unlike Uncle Remus and Br'er Rabbit, it was time to let them out and cash in on those folks who still remembered it.
Film list for Toshi by mr_shoreditch	Jul 8th, 2008 04:15:19 AM
Mori, thanks for the review. My wife and I don't have kids yet, but we're thinking about it and it'll hopefully happen next year. I often think about what films I would want to show to my future children, and occasionally play around with lists and orders of what I would want him/her to watch. Should I play the classic kids' films in some kind of order? I was wondering if you thought about this with your family? Was there any thought behind what films you showed Toshi? If so, I think it would make a cracking article on AICN...
Mr Shoreditch by Boba Fat	Jul 8th, 2008 04:23:45 AM
Don't worry the kid will let you know and no amount of cajoling will be able to persuade it that watching The Jungle Book is preferable to watching The Night Garden (UK programme) for the gazillionith time!
Shoreditch... by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 8th, 2008 04:43:55 AM
... they'll let you know. All you can do is make options available. For my part, I keep one of my five-disc changers in the office loaded up with things Toshi can watch on DVD, so if he's hanging out with me while I'm working, I cna pick something from that platter for him. Tomorrow, he'll be able to choose between THE GREAT MUPPET CAPER, SWORD IN THE STONE, WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT, TIME BANDITS, and a disc of Three Stooges shorts.
Three Stooges! by Boba Fat	Jul 8th, 2008 04:52:05 AM
Let's hope Toshi isn't cracking heads at Kindergarten My son had a brief obessesion with the 70's Godzilla cartoon and went around roaring at everyone for a while. By the way Kung Fu Panda is Goofy Panda in our house.
Hey Mori - a few suggestions for your kid by Paulseta	Jul 8th, 2008 04:56:19 AM
Explorers - this movie is so much better than it's given credit for... it hurts to think what might have been if Paramount hadn't pulled the film from under Dante to make a release date. Warlords Of Atlantis - don't laugh, I loved this film as a kid. Rubber monsters, sci-fi, the guy who voiced Scott Tracy (and played the head of the water board in Batman Begins, and the captain in Spy Who Loved Me) and a diving bell. A DIVING BELL. Star Trek: The Motion Picture - cause when I was a kid I went on the set when that was being shot. Just wanted to brag about that, no real other reason.... Red Dawn - because you NEED your kid to be ready for when the USSR reforms and invades America via parachute. You KNOW this will happen in at least 250 years. Be alert. I am serious about Explorers though.
Thanks Mori and Boba by mr_shoreditch	Jul 8th, 2008 05:02:29 AM
So I guess there's no point trying to influence the little ones! I'm fascinated by what my kids will make of the films that stoked me as a child. It must be a real joy to see your child watching Radiers for the first time, for example. Cheers.
Must keep expectation low, must keep expectation low.... by Gabba-UK	Jul 8th, 2008 05:52:15 AM
it can't really be as good as everyone says.... there must be something wrong with it?....anything?
Wall-E is further proof that Michael Bay is a moron by Montag666	Jul 8th, 2008 05:52:25 AM
It's amazing that none of the robots in Wall-E had anything close to a human like face, and yet they were able to express emotion so well. Wasn't that the reason why they gave the Transformers lips and human looking eyes? They thought that people wouldn't be able to connect with the characters because they didn't look human. It just goes to show that Michael Bay and Co. have zero respect for their audience.
Was it really all that? by harosa	Jul 8th, 2008 06:09:11 AM
In my opinion Pixar made a good film, maybe great by other's standards but did they make a great kid's film? Before you all scream foul, ask yourself if Godfather is a great film, or replace that with any other non animated title you want, now is that a great film or a great kid's film? Obviously Godfather isn't a great kid's film (unless you're italian maybe : ) but it is a great film and while I think Wall-E might be a classic (even upon further viewings by me) I don't think it's a great kids film, 2 showings attended by me had kids squirming in their seats because alot of what was going on was just too bleak at the beginning and slow in the middle, they only perked up when the action started and I think we can all agree that the movie does try to make some points. Is it a crime here to suggest that my 2 1/2 yr old niece while liking alot of Wall-E before seeing it had a better time at Kung Fu Panda. Any thoughts?
Darn straight: Monsters, Inc. rocks by Superdudebobby	Jul 8th, 2008 06:30:38 AM
It is my favorite Pixar film, in fact, although the Toy Stories are close and Wall-E may surpass it after I see it multiple times -- first screening has me pretty much in love already.
"I’ll be honest with you... at this point, I wouldn’t have the b by ElsieZiiippp	Jul 8th, 2008 06:34:59 AM
That's some ego you've got there, what have you ever done that got a great review? The best your work has ever achieved is average reviews, except possibly when Harry gets overexcited and goes all sycophantic on your work. Nothing personal you understand but you just aren't that talented.
The humans in Wall-E are this site by performingmonkey	Jul 8th, 2008 06:57:47 AM
Some people don't like how close to the bone it was. When I first saw the humans I thought they were based on Harry but then I just thought about myself sitting in front of this fucking screen. Aaaaah..... we all SUCK, that's the long and short of it! Doctor Who tells us that enough times. Humans are IDIOTS!!!
I hate to be rude, but Mori's comment by Paulseta	Jul 8th, 2008 07:09:24 AM
"The rendering may get slicker, and performance capture may get more sophisticated, but whatever you do, you're not going to get better performance than what they did in that film between Boo and Sully. It's magic. It's ET and Elliot magic. It's Iron Giant and Hogarth magic. They're real. Their relationship is real. " You know what's even more real? ACTUAL FUCKING ACTORS IN A REAL FILM THAT ISN'T ANIMATION. Hence my love of films like Explorers. Because it's not just a bunch of nerds animating their lost childhoods on the screen - it's a bunch of nerds directing real actors and employing old-school special effects to get their lost childhoods on the screen. (Or in the case of Finding Nemo, it was a bunch of nerds doing the Disney "kill Mom" thing, which to this day is really, really odd and should be the subject of a Doors song.)
Speaking of kids movies by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET	Jul 8th, 2008 07:10:35 AM
"The Silent One" was one of my favs as a kid, right along side Project X, Cloak and Dagger, Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend. Silent one sorta reminds me of Wall*E cane explain why. Um but the main character is deaf and mute. Sword and The Stone. Damn I used to watch that one a lot as a kid. The Silent One is only avalable through one retailer online http://www.nzvideos.org/silent .html It's expensive too, like $45 before shipping. That film is magic man, I'm telling you. You gotta give it a watch if you havent seen it.
Reminds me more of the gas-cooker robot from Wallace & by Jugs	Jul 8th, 2008 07:23:43 AM
Gromit, who keep things tidy on the moon.
I LOVED THE BLACK CAULDRON!!! by Cerebud	Jul 8th, 2008 07:24:11 AM
Man, you people are just way too cool and cynical. I saw the movie, then burned through the books, which are all excellent. I even wrote to Lloyd Alexander, who was kind enough to write back.
The movie isn't an attack on our reliance Mori by Rickey Henderson	Jul 8th, 2008 07:26:27 AM
It's an attack on the consumer culture that actively PROMOTES that reliance. And the underlying message is that it's up to humankind to break free of all that. Rickey can deal with the fact that it's not a subtle message. What Rickey takes issue with is the fact that the movie lambasts mass consumer culture (Walmart) while fethisizing and cherry picking mass producing corporations it likes (Apple). And you can't have it both ways. How are we supposed to react to a movie that tells us to shape up and stop living sedentary lives when this same movie is very much a Hollywood product itself? You telling us that Wall-E dolls, games, and action figures won't be littering landfills ten years from now?
Mermaid SAVED Disney Animation by Reverend Toast	Jul 8th, 2008 07:33:41 AM
Eisner was going to shut it down completely and just rely on the Theme Parks if it wasn't for Mermaids Success.
Wall*E consumerism by Reverend Toast	Jul 8th, 2008 07:35:36 AM
Corporation wise, Pixar has never been into the marketing. Disney, since the beginning, has done all of the marketing and merchandise. Pixar just makes the movies... which just happen to me marketable.
WALL-E and BTW God by bythehairofsanjaya	Jul 8th, 2008 07:36:25 AM
Wall-E was 'OK'. It was not the 2nd coming of ET as it has been made out to be on AICN. It is doing well at the box office, but will not break any records. As far as "God" vs. "god". It's not all that difficult people. It comes down to rules of punctuation, not someone's belief system. If "god" is refering to the god of the Christians it is capitalized because it is a proper name: "God" "Allah" "Buddah" "Krishna". If it references a non-specific deity it is to be in lower case - "Handcock is a god". To accidently print "god" for Jehovah God is just bad grammar and shame on any writer here for not better proof reading. (I know, I know, proof reading on AICN, but you get the picture). To delibertly print "god" when knowingly refering to the Christian god is just rude and needlessly insulting. Neither is good journalism.
Elsie.. by Jonah Echo	Jul 8th, 2008 07:41:08 AM
He also said: To be the guy who made Pixar’s ROCK-A-DOODLE. Talk about Nixonian flopsweat. Dear god. I mean, I’m just enough of a hack to do it. And I’d never realize I’d done it until after the fact. I think overall Mori is commenting on the fact of how much risk the Pixar people are actually taking over there, and how committed they are to quality. After Incredibles, I think they could have churned out more obvious hits, but the preview before Incredibles had big goofy talking cars. The streak is over, thought I. But no, it worked,and while not the best Pixar it's really good. Before Cars, I believe, there was the trailer for a Pixar movie about a Rat that cooks. If that didnt have Brad Bird's name on it, I wouldnt have been excited until I had hear reviews. But guess what, I FREAKIN LOVE Ratatouille. And a movie about a little robot, with twenty minutes of no real dialogue, with a story that actually has some commentary on society, that merges real actors with animation, and actually incorporates Hello Dolly tunes. And IMO it's the best Pixar yet, right there with Toy Story 2 and The Incredibles bot for my money a bit beyond them. And yes because they are Pixar they have the freedom to take chances, but it's the taking of chances that makes them loved and makes them PIXAR. And as long as they stay keyed into that, flops or not, I think they will maintain the legacy. It wasn't one film that dropped Disney, it was an entire paradigm shift.
A small request by Zarles	Jul 8th, 2008 07:41:12 AM
Mori, could you please cut your reviews down to four or five words in length, and post them seven months in advance? I don't have the brain capacity to read anything longer than my dick, and my ADD starts making me see the rape goblins again if I have to wait longer than 3 seconds for anything at all. Thanks. Oh, and you're fat. And probably gay, as well. Is Harry gay? What about Capone? Also, can I have a job? I'd probably turn gay for a job. If it's okay with my Dad, that is. Are my PopTarts done yet, Mom? I'll be up in a few minutes.
Reverend Toast by Rickey Henderson	Jul 8th, 2008 07:41:38 AM
Bullshit. You telling Rickey that its just a coincidence that Wall-E happens to make the same sound that Rickey's Powerbook does when it turns on? And it's just a conincidence that Pixar was created by Apple? They're just as involved in the shilling as Disney is.
Re Paulseta by Reverend Toast	Jul 8th, 2008 07:42:11 AM
I understand your complaint, but it shouldn't be made against Pixar. Pixar movies have never been about capturing reality. They follow the tradition of "If you can do it with real life its not for animation." All of their movies wouldn't have worked as well if it wasn't for their animation and their style. Films like Final Fantasy, Polar Express and Beowulf would have all worked fine, if not better, if they stuck with conventional filmmaking. Heck Robert Zemeckis said when making Roger Rabbit, that the key to animation is you only use it when you can't do it with real life. Iron Man is a perfect example of CGI use, because they only used it for scenes that the Winston suit wouldn't have worked. Also, if I remember right, Elliot and ET weren't animated. Mori wasn't talking about animation and real life... but what Pixar CAN do with animation is make REAL emotion, REAL relationships which are a hell of a lot more believeable than most other hollywood films. Pixar's excellence is in more than just their animation, its in their entire production.
Paulseta by Steve T	Jul 8th, 2008 07:59:01 AM
well done, you've picked a point specifically about animation and make a completely useless omment. If you hate animation so much, why did you even look at this article? Are you one of those idiot talkbackers that has nothing better to do with your life but come here and look up stuff you dislike and bitch? And you have the balls to call other people nerds? You sir, are a bit of a wanker!
Wall-E is basically ET as a robot by Magic Rat	Jul 8th, 2008 08:15:02 AM
that's what I took away from the film.
BurnHollywood by Sebilrazen	Jul 8th, 2008 08:17:54 AM
This is from the top of my head... I could Google it but then I'd be a schmuck. Bug's Life - Ant leaves hive to find help to defeat the new WASP overlords. Monster's Inc - Monsters travel through closets to get kids' screams for energy, a kid comes through portal, Sully and Mike have hilarious adventure trying to find/protect/return kid ("Boo") whilst learning that Laughter is more energetic than screams. Lots of subcontext related to corporate/government corruption.
Damn... by Sebilrazen	Jul 8th, 2008 08:19:20 AM
Bug's life was grasshoppers, not wasps...
JFC mori! by thekylegassproject	Jul 8th, 2008 08:38:25 AM
shouldn't you have just titled this review, "my pixar manifesto." ...fucking war & peace...
Thanks Mori by Stormshadow4life	Jul 8th, 2008 08:47:47 AM
Your reviews are one of the major reasons I visit this site. I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. Can't wait til I see hellboy 2 and dark knight so i can read your reviews on them.
Thomas Newman is the Flying Spaghetti Monster by disruptive pantsuit	Jul 8th, 2008 09:25:03 AM
Yes, musically speaking Thomas Newman is the embodiment of His Supreme Noodly Goodness. "Finding Nemo" wouldn't be half the movie it is, IMO, if it weren't for Newman's score. And maybe I'm just getting old but I actually wept during Wall-E and EVE's "dance." Hell, I own a copy of "The Man With One Red Shoe" JUST because it's the only way I can hear Newman's soundtrack.
Disney stumbled and can't get up by Abominable Snowcone	Jul 8th, 2008 09:31:37 AM
in my opinion. Pixar IS Disney at this point, and Disney is next to nothing without them. We're taking the kids to Disneyland next year. I've never been there and don't much wanna go, but the wife insists. It occurred to me that while my children know and love Buzz, Woody, Mike, Sully, the Parr Family, Nemo etc, they have NO idea who Goofy or Pluto are. Why should they? I think the last good thing Disney did was a movie wherein they mocked themselves (Enchanted). They've seen the Lion King, but Simba isn't near the icon Woody and Mr. Incredible are in my house.
"Skip to the end..." by mike_n	Jul 8th, 2008 09:50:14 AM
Moriarty is the AICN reviewer I trust and enjoy reading the most but he's in danger of emulating Harry's excesses if he keeps up this rambling style. "Stay on target" Drew.
Rickey by Reverend Toast	Jul 8th, 2008 09:52:25 AM
I totally took the Mac/OS startup sound as a joke. Its in no way advertising it, because the only people who recognize the sound are people who use Macs... or have used them before. Now if it started up with an Apple logo, and had OS MXVII display on his chest then yes that would be advertising. Steve Jobs also didn't start Pixar, he bought it from George Lucas. Since the Pixar/Disney merger he is the number 1 shareholder of Disney and now sits on the board. (He either has 15 or 18 percent.... can't remember the exact number)
Drew Barrymore and I'm a Mac broke up by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 09:52:27 AM
none of this means anything anymore. and for those of whine about the length and content of mori's reviews, go stick to thumbs up your ass and see you at the movies!
Wall-E was my favorite Pixar movie yet by BMacSmith	Jul 8th, 2008 09:55:00 AM
Cars was ok, but i thought Pixar was slipping. i was wrong.
two thumbs, damnit! KHAAAAANNNN!!!!! by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 09:55:39 AM

This movie was pretty great. by PumpyMcAss	Jul 8th, 2008 09:56:12 AM
If you liked Ratatouille and The Incredibles the most out of all the Pixar features, this one is sure to float your boat.
Monsters Inc by Reverend Toast	Jul 8th, 2008 09:58:23 AM
Monsters Inc is incredible. The character designs are SOOO simple, but are infinitely complex in their simplicity. And the big climactic chase in the door storage area seems like something ripped out of Chuck Jones' imagination. Mosters Inc is a perfect example of how great pixar is, because it shows that even though it doesn't look "photorealistic" computer animation can have just as much soul, character, and intelligence as any other type of movie.
THERE'S AN IDEA by TheFlypaper	Jul 8th, 2008 09:59:40 AM
A 3D animated Three Stooges caper movie. Pixar style. I'd even settle for a short. I'd bust a gut at that shit, especially if they used the same audio tracks and comic timing.
How is EVE a "token girl"? by Nasty In The Pasty	Jul 8th, 2008 10:04:12 AM
She's a BAD-ASS who BLOWS UP OCEAN TANKERS just because she's peeved. And Jesse in Toy Story 2 was a very strong female character, as was Collete in Ratatouille. Pixar hasn't done a "token" girl role since Bo Peep in Toy Story 1.
OMG! I totally got pwned by Kurt Lockwood!! by half vader	Jul 8th, 2008 10:20:53 AM
He slammed me with awesome insults like Half Vader = Half Brain and Half Wit. There's no way I can compete with an intellect like that! Actually, maybe it IS Kurt's toddler posting after all, that might explain it. I couldn't really be bothered to do much of a search in answer to your 'challenge' Cunt -er I mean Kurt (wow! I can do it almost as well as you!), but this is what I found after a few minutes. AICN has the most retarded search engine ever, but it didn't take long to find some from the last few days, a few weeks back, and a few months to a year. Like I say, only took a few, and strangely enough the vast MAJORITY (like 7 out of 10) of those few had others making the same stupid Short Cicuit posts, and even better, people saying "Is it only me...". And BEFORE you. Anyway, you're all bluster and bullshit Kurt. Here you go. Maybe Mori can get at the shitload of TBs that have the same boring Short Circuit 'cleverness' ad infinitum. Toodles! www.aintitcool.com/node/37098 www.aintitcool.com/node/37250 www.aintitcool.com/node/37082 www.aintitcool.com/node/34249 www.aintitcool.com/node/33648 www.aintitcool.com/node/33497 www.aintitcool.com/node/33020
Inarticulate, Ignorant, Slovenly, Morbidly Obese Consumers by LaserPants	Jul 8th, 2008 10:34:58 AM
Have a problem with the future WALL*E portrays; everyone else praises it as a spot-on satirical, if exaggerated (you know, cartoon?), dissection of the species as it is, and warning of what it will become unless it changes its ways and hastily gets from under the thumb of inept, corrupt leadership and rampant, unchecked Corporate greed, waste, and chronic malfeasance. Basically, its Bush n' Wallmart World circa the year future billion. The transcendent release from said morass occurring at the end where we see humanity getting its shit together thanks to the heroism of an adorable robot couple. Aww. I call it prophecy. Market friendly mainstream progressive prophecy!
I was slightly let down by purplepurple	Jul 8th, 2008 10:37:14 AM
A very good scifi idea wasted on a kiddie movie.
actually i was the first with the wall-e/johnny 5 comparison by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 10:53:48 AM
it was fall of '86 when pixar first opened for business. i was working at the 'video biz' rental store next to the mervyns. i distinctly remember when short circuit came out on vhs turning to my co-worker amy and saying "you wait and see, 20 some years from now this young, upstart animation company is going to rip off that johnny 5 design... mark my words" there was no internet or talkback boards to post in back in those days, but if you go the 2nd stall of the mervyns bathroom, you can find my wisdom carved on the back of the door.(right next to the phone number of a certain 'loose' woman named amber)
Disney is Now John Lasseter by kevinwillis.net	Jul 8th, 2008 10:54:44 AM
And the Lasseter process. We'll see how well it works with upcoming Disney properties like Bolt! and The Frog and the Princess. I'm betting both those movies will be much higher quality pics than what Disney was putting out before . . . nothing against Tarzan and Mulan, both of which were very good post-Katzenberg era movies. It also helps that there is good competition. While Iron Giant was a Disney-quality movie that, unfortunately, tanked at the box office, Dreamworks has developed several box office hits, which helps keep the pressure on. Now, they have developed a Pixar-worthy movie in Kung Fu Panda, which really helps keep the pressure on . . . I don't think there are going to be any Black Cauldrons from Pixar/Disney. Period. That isn't hate on Black Cauldron, BTW, which was a beautifully animated film, but suffered from a lot of suit interference, and thus from poor editing, script problems, pacing, and a variety of other flaws that kept it from being a Disney classic, as beautifully animated as it was. I went to see it in the theater, and I was a bit underwhelmed then, myself. But I was young--16 or 17--and thought that the fact that Disney was advertising it as a film 14 years in the making was a good thing. Now I know a movie being rehashed and reprocessed and interfered with for 14 years is almost never a good thing for the final product.
C'Mon by Metlar413	Jul 8th, 2008 10:55:57 AM
Whay does everyone always have to put down THE BLACK CAULDRON? It was a good movie.
No One Cares Who was First with the Comparison by kevinwillis.net	Jul 8th, 2008 10:56:00 AM
Between Johnny 5 and Wall-E. To the degree it is accurate, it's obvious, and thus pointless.
Wall-e was kind of libertarian by darthvedder81	Jul 8th, 2008 10:58:45 AM
Good observations Moriarty. I saw "Wall-e" not as a pro-environment/evil humans polemic but a cautionary tale of what happens to people when they rely on others to do everything for them (be it a corporation, a government or a government-like corporation). None of the humans in "Wall-e" were bad they were just settling for far too little and they didn't even know it.
Cars is a Good Film by kevinwillis.net	Jul 8th, 2008 11:00:32 AM
Not outstanding, like the Incredibles, but good. Like many Pixar films, there are touches that really help propel it to being more than it otherwise would have been . . . 'Mater being one of them. Paul Newman as the Judge was just classic. The story there was good . . . lots of great stuff in that movie, if you watch it without prejudice against Nascar or 1950s road culture. Not that I give a shit about Nascar. I just liked the film, overall. The DVD feature, 'Mater and the Ghost Light, was great. I'd like to see more of that stuff from Pixar, too.
Wall*E Was a Cautionary Tale by kevinwillis.net	Jul 8th, 2008 11:02:17 AM
Of what happens when the government nationalizes large retail chains. It is also what happens when Fred Willard declares himself dictator-for-life. Which is a lot closer to happening than many people know. Open your eyes, Sheeple!
For Folks Who Think Toy Story 3 by kevinwillis.net	Jul 8th, 2008 11:07:57 AM
Is going to be Pixar's first big failure, you need to quit smoking the crack. It's doing something to your brains.
Monsters, Inc. & Rock-A-Doodle by MacTard420	Jul 8th, 2008 11:08:13 AM
I just watched Monsters, Inc. again for the first time in years because a friend hadn't seen it yet! First I slapped him, then we watched it! I still love that movie so much! It could be my favorite Pixar but that answer probably changes everyday. Mori, you are right. The bond between Sully and Boo is just timeless. John Goodman's voice work is just too damn good in that. Rock-A-Doodle is one of my 'pretty-bad-movies-that-you-lo ve-anyways-because-you-saw-it- 5-million-times-as-a-child'. If you only see that movie as an adult, it's pretty crappy. 'HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HAHA....NO BATTERIES!!'
kevinwillis... it is important... it is, it is , IT IS! by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 11:08:15 AM
oh wait, no... no it really isn't.
Wonderfully subversive by Tom Dearing	Jul 8th, 2008 11:15:46 AM
My nine-year-old son loved the movie. Pixar is an institution in our house, as well. I don't know who liked it better - me or my son. It was hard not to see some of yourself in the humans, but in a funny way. The humans, while bloated and lazy, were all good people and that was revealed once they started having some contact: John with his lady friend, and the captain with Wall•e and Eve. A friend at work said he took the social commentary pretty easily because he'd seen "Idiocracy" before, which is a good way to look at it. Monsters, Inc.... a perfect story in our house. Any time it's on is cause to sit down and watch it all over again. Moriarty, thanks for all the reviews. We (my family and co-workers) enjoy them, and base some of our movie-going on them. What's more, we see ourselves - our likes, dislikes, critiques - in them. Even when we don't agree, we appreciate your point of view. I think that's what many people are missing on this site. It offers unique points of view. Thanks for that.
Nasty In The Pasty... by ThomasServo	Jul 8th, 2008 11:22:25 AM
Great name, first off... but I totally agree. I signed in just to counter the "token girl" thing. EVE was just about the hero of the movie. She literally carried WALL-E on multiple occasions. Totally badass. Say what you will about Pixar, they DO NOT follow the "token girl" cliche.
i'd like to be the first to point out .... by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 11:23:08 AM
that the "batman" in "the dark knight" is a blatant rip off of batman from "batman begins" now I will update my myspace page with the url link to this page, and all the chicks will dig me, my bald spot will begin to grow hair, and my wife will start to enjoy having sex with me. i have accomplished my lifes dream top that kurt lostwood...
About Wall E and Johnny 5 by dixieflyer	Jul 8th, 2008 11:28:07 AM
Johnny 5 never crossed my mind when I saw Wall E, but now that people bring it up, Eve seems more like Johnny 5 than Walle to me. Johnny 5 was a slick state of the art shiny clean robot with a gun, like Eve. WallE is an old broken down blue collar robot that takes pleasure in the small things. I understand WallE and J5 have things in common (the tracks/the independent eye lenses) but their status is so different I never made the connection.
for those hating on mori's reviiews by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 11:36:04 AM
you're like people that complain about howard sterns content but still listen every day for the entire show. next time, just don't fucking read it. go turn on E and wait for ryan suckfest to dictate your movie viewing habits
I'm sorry, the Johnny-5 comparison is invalid because of their j by TheMcflyFarm	Jul 8th, 2008 11:42:33 AM
I don't give a fuck if one's a crack whore and the other's a mobile toilet, the design for Wall-E is a total rip-off! What are you a child? Anyway, it doesn't matter seeing as how they are both based off of E.T.
Cars and Pixar by Brett_FlashJ	Jul 8th, 2008 11:43:18 AM
Cars was not a stumble for Pixar. Its art was impressive and yeah it ripped off of Doc Hollywood but it was still a solid kids movie. These movies are family films, and Cars was aimed mainly at kids. My niece and nephew love Cars as much as the other movies. Personally, I think Wall-E is up there with the best of Pixar. Bugs Life and Cars are my least favorites but still better family movies than most. I'd put the order at Incredibles, Toy Story 1 & 2, Wall-E, Ratatouille, Nemo, Monsters Inc., Cars, and Bugs Life.
No, Mori was slamming ME!!! by SkeletonParty	Jul 8th, 2008 11:44:53 AM
In 1978 I incidentally placed a pair of binoculars on Mom's brand new 35 inch microwave oven. The oven had all sorts of buttons back then and I pushed some of them. The binoculars made a peculiar sound and I thought, "Damn, that would make a great robot design twenty years from now and again thirty years from now!" Then I went to Mervyns twenty years later and while using the bathroom I noticed someone had stolen all of my thoughts, including the phone number of my surprisingly friendly girlfriend.
Oh and the shorts... by Brett_FlashJ	Jul 8th, 2008 11:49:04 AM
How great is it going to a movie with a short in front of it also. More movies, not just Pixar, should do this. I look forward to Pixar movies to catch them just as much as the films themselves. And Presto was awesome!!
Crack Whore and Mobile Toilet, now there's a movie idea by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 11:50:57 AM
think an animated "tango and cash" meets "pretty woman" meets "thelma and louise" starring the vocal talents of roseanne barr and lewis black (you can cast each in either part)
Wall E is amazing by spectrebeeyatch	Jul 8th, 2008 12:06:16 PM
Great movie experience. Someone hit it on the head calling Michael Bay out for Transformers needing lips and eyes so human audience can deal. Also people quiet with the "Wall E was good but not the masterpiece AICN portrayed it as".... Fuck you. Anyone who says this is an ass hole if you want attention and think you are so high and mighty go yell in the street.
3 times is nothing. by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 12:06:55 PM
once it comes out on dvd, my 2 year old will watch it 3 times a week.
by the way mori, by irrelevntelefant	Jul 8th, 2008 12:09:28 PM
I too keep my multi disc dvd players loaded with at least 3 kid friendly dvd's at all times. brroom-brroom mackeen is his favorite. i can lip sync that movie at this point
best ever!!! by kitano0	Jul 8th, 2008 12:19:00 PM
Congrats on a wonderful review/essay! Possibly the best thing I've read on this site! The "Black Cauldron" quip cracked me up!
I'm glad that Pixar set the bar so high to begin with by Tacom	Jul 8th, 2008 12:35:58 PM
CGI films have been only around for what? More than a dozen years now? And people are already whether something new by Pixar is already a masterpiece or not! I don't know any studio, live-action or otherwise that can boast that.
Anchorite by frongbak	Jul 8th, 2008 12:59:41 PM
I think your argument has a couple flaws, the humans are obviously not having sex with each other in the physical sense and are likely being bread from sperm and egg and maybe having virtual sex like countless other Sci-fi films like Demolition Man and Matrix. Second why would Stanton try to broach that sensitive sexual material and endanger a G rating? Plus isn't it a minor and puerile detail to deal with considering it is established the humans have been on the ship for 700 years, there has to be a method of procreation in place. In terms of Pixar in general I would say Monsters Inc. is one of their least successfull movies b/c it panders to the lowest denominator. It's theme is simplistic and it goes for the easiest jokes. In fact, Lassiter said it was a wake-up call b/c Pixar realized how easy it was to turn out simplistic movies and still turn sizable profits, a la Dreamworks. I didn't love Cars but it was the most Old-Fashioned and Classicly American of their films, Ratatouille was a notch below classic but took major chances in terms of a Rat as the main protaginist, and Wall E is the most ambitious Animated Flim ever and it succeeds far more than it fails, therefore it is an unquestioned classic.
Number 5 + E.T. = Wall-E by performingmonkey	Jul 8th, 2008 01:10:45 PM
That's the long and short of it. The sequence where he's going through all the trash reminds me of when ET was opening the fridge and stuff. He's like a robot ET with Johnny 5's eyes. His voice is a cross between the two. The thing is, by doing that they got it RIGHT. Don't fuck with the unfuckable.
Ratat.. Pedestrian Writing!!? by Lovecraftfan	Jul 8th, 2008 01:32:02 PM
The review given by Ego at the end of the film is one of the finest pieces of writing Ive heard in a while. Thats not pedestrian writing.
bythehairofsanjaya by samsquanch	Jul 8th, 2008 01:47:21 PM
I would have liked your argument more if you had said something like: " Jesus Fucking Christ, it's God, not 'god'. Get it right!"
Pixar mailed it in by chewyou812	Jul 8th, 2008 02:13:05 PM
with Cars. To me the biggest problem with the movie (aside from larry the cable guy) was that Pixar knew that between kids love of cars and NASCAR fans that they wouldn't have to push themselves. They couldve found an interesting story to tell, but instead they settled for the lucrative layup that is Cars.
Pixar mailed it in by chewyou812	Jul 8th, 2008 02:13:09 PM
with Cars. To me the biggest problem with the movie (aside from larry the cable guy) was that Pixar knew that between kids love of cars and NASCAR fans that they wouldn't have to push themselves. They couldve found an interesting story to tell, but instead they settled for the lucrative layup that is Cars.
FAT, DUMB, NUMB, AND STUPID. by balzacthemonstercat	Jul 8th, 2008 02:21:57 PM
You feel so proud of your merchadising things, the way you have all the toys and the way you give your children the same blinding shiny objects that EVERYONE else owns... you feel so proud of how you've seen EVERY movie made by some studio, how you buy EVERY little thing related to them, and you still wonder why there are fat babies pictured there... it's not about getting physically fat, it's about how you get fed by a film tube and kept numbed for you to buy more garbage. You all live in a spaceship, and it makes me both sad and amused to see you debate over something so obvious. You feel so proud of your room filled with merchandise, toys, special edition boxed dvds, ... while your children continues to be fed by a screen. Kudos, people. You're one step closer to total numb stupidity.
Sad... by ThomasServo	Jul 8th, 2008 02:30:35 PM
I really feel like some people watch movies like they're grading a test. No enjoyment; just left-brained and logical, ticking off moments with a red pen. I would hate to be these people. Honestly, it seems miserable.
Why wasn't Fred Willard animated???? by Samuel Fulmer	Jul 8th, 2008 02:48:46 PM
Could someone explain???? And Hello Dolly for that matter???

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