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THE DARK KNIGHT Reviews Flood In!

I by Series7	Jun 27th, 2008 12:58:29 PM
hope there are more cars flipped then whats shown in the trailers.
He has not made a bad film yet by Series7	Jun 27th, 2008 12:59:31 PM
I guess this guy never saw Insomnia?
awesome by cyrent	Jun 27th, 2008 01:00:01 PM
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kickass by Speed Fricassee	Jun 27th, 2008 01:00:23 PM
early again
Uh oh. by strosmer	Jun 27th, 2008 01:01:07 PM
Time to get off AICN for the next month. Still have not read any reviews. Must...not...spoil.
And here... we... go! by Nordling	Jun 27th, 2008 01:03:20 PM
Sorry. Had to do it.
it breaks through the glass ceiling of your wildest dreams! by chrth	Jun 27th, 2008 01:03:24 PM
excuse me I need to wipe the vomit off my desk
put in a spoiler alert! by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:03:31 PM

Hmmmm by Series7	Jun 27th, 2008 01:04:21 PM
Heath Bar gonna get a Supporting Oscar post death nod? I mean he pretty much was the James Dean of our time. Kind of died in a similar fashion, cars were all the fad in those days, drugs are all the fad these days. I really want this movie to be good, shit every talkbacker may as well be called Dark Knight Fan #1. I don't know what TB'ers are going to go after this movie comes out? Because every time a movie came out someone didn't want to see, or there mom wouldn't give them $7.50 to see a movie ($10 if you live in NY or Cali) they would always chant I'll wait for Dark Knight. Well what will people be waiting for next?
too excited by ciroslive	Jun 27th, 2008 01:05:13 PM
I almost don't want to see TDK because I'm afraid it won't live up to the awesomeness it projects in the trailers. Plus I was burned bad by Spiderman 3 for movies wasting my favorite villains. But this one sounds great. I'll be in line at Star Cinema, Madison, WI for the midnight IMAX premiere...
It's great to see that comic book movies no longer exist to sell by Series7	Jun 27th, 2008 01:05:31 PM
Doesn't stop them from flooding the market with them though either.
The Second Review.... by spideyman1218	Jun 27th, 2008 01:07:49 PM
Is the worst thing ever posted on this site.
"The GODFATHER 2 of comic book films"? by SpyGuy	Jun 27th, 2008 01:09:17 PM
So what was THE GODFATHER of comic book films then? SPIDER-MAN 2?
be careful, spoilers in the first review by WhoDis	Jun 27th, 2008 01:09:17 PM
the others, not so much
Well, my dicks hard! by Rat Fink	Jun 27th, 2008 01:10:00 PM
This movie is gonna kick so much ass. It will easily knock Spiderman 2 from the top of my fav list.
OH Man by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 01:10:32 PM
I can not wait!
the rachel letter thing by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:11:05 PM
and pencil trick are real spoilers...i wish i hadn't read one, oh well
I just want to throw this out there... by fassbinder79	Jun 27th, 2008 01:11:13 PM
Anyone who doesn't like Heat or calls it a bad film is an idiot. And LA Confidential was one of the best films of the 90's. So, if Dark Knight is even close to the caliber of those films it will not only be the comic book film of the decade but it might even be up there with the greatest pics of all time. I've got my IMAX tickets for midnight opening day. I'm stoked. Thank you God for Christopher Nolan.
SPOILER WARNING: Bruce Wayne is Batman by SpyGuy	Jun 27th, 2008 01:11:17 PM
Now THERE'S a spoiler for you...
FUCK, that first review by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 01:11:41 PM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER seems to confirm that a certain someone dies at the end. Can somebody please please please please tell me if we see a corpse, or if the characters just think that that character is dead?
My wildest dreams do not have glass ceilings... by tonagan	Jun 27th, 2008 01:12:53 PM
Mirrored ceilings in a bedroom, perhaps, but that's it.
The curse of multiple villains... by Kid Z	Jun 27th, 2008 01:13:42 PM
...Looks like Nolan's overcome the curse, but I hope he keeps the villain-count down in the next installment... if the suits at Warner's will let him, that is.
Rachel dies, pushing Harvey toward Two-face by David Cloverfield	Jun 27th, 2008 01:15:02 PM
Around the end of the second act. Just a guess. This movie isn't rocket science.
Oh, Happy Day! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 01:15:55 PM
Damn. Three weeks is too much. Nordling - you took the words right out of my mouth.
HEAT is the shit! by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 01:16:18 PM
Why all the hate?
I think it comes out on the 25th here in the UK by pokadoo	Jun 27th, 2008 01:18:44 PM
Which is shit! >:(
HOLY SHIT : by PTSDPete	Jun 27th, 2008 01:20:19 PM
I've got nothing else to say.
HEAT SUCKS??? by One Nation Under Zod	Jun 27th, 2008 01:21:26 PM
Suck my dick. Heat is a fantastic film.
I consider myself hardened against hype... by scudd	Jun 27th, 2008 01:21:33 PM
..but I am extremely excited for this movie. Remember that feeling you'd get as a kid? No, not when your daddy touched you, but when you knew you were going to Disneyworld in a couple of weeks? That's how I feel right now, only now I have a much bigger dong.
Knives Don't Make Noise When They're Handled by Prague23	Jun 27th, 2008 01:21:56 PM
Or taken out of cloth enclosures, or thrown from hand to hand, or anything resembling the sound Wolverine makes when his claws are extracted. Big pet peeve of mine.
I hope they are right. by DerLanghaarige	Jun 27th, 2008 01:23:46 PM
I really wanna like this movie, but Batman Begins was just to mediocre to get excited. Definitely Nolan's weakest movie. Damn, I hope so much that this will be better.
Bravo to Nolan by Silverglade	Jun 27th, 2008 01:24:28 PM
The man is setting the example. Getting my IMAX tickets on the 3rd. I am happier than a pig in shit.
the second 'review' by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:25:11 PM
offers nothing, really. just repeats the hype and description of heath...doesn't dampen my eagerness to see it thoughg
Spoiler Warning: Bale is Bruce Wayne... by theycallmemrglass	Jun 27th, 2008 01:29:39 PM
But he aint Batman. His voice as one reviewer puts it was always too much of a grunt in Batman Begins. I let that go though, because we were witnessing a raw Batman, a beginning. Now that we are beyond that, Bale is too wrong for Batman. He may be good as Bruce Wayne but the reviewer suggests that there is much more of Batman in this film. Having got that gripe off my chest, I fucking loved Batman Begins and I cant wait to see this one, with a fucking awesome promising interpretation of the Joker. Shit, what a summer this is turning out to be. Iron Man (good fun, not as great as everyone is making it out to be though), Indiana Jones (fucking loved it. Bitches wanna complain about story and realism of the action can go fuck themselves as they havent got a fucking clue what an Indy film is about), Wall-E (98% on Rottentomatoes, I'd be damned if I end up agreeing with the 2%), Hulk, Prince Caspian, Wanted, all rating above 70% on Rottentomatoes, which makes for a fucking great summer of cinema.
everybody knocking duffer63's review by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:30:20 PM
should quietly apologize, everything he said was true.
I am fully prepared for this movie to rule by Heckles	Jun 27th, 2008 01:30:58 PM
I have such high hopes. I'm going to leave expectations at the door of course. But everything I've heard and read says this could be the best comic film in years. For me, I think Spider-Man 2 and X2 are the best thus far. Iron Man is close. After seeing Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3, I hope there is not a third Batman reboot film.
the GRUNT by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:33:58 PM
yeah watched begins last night (played twice in a row on cable- with limited commercials and a TDK trailer every break!)and there was a scene where bale is speaking to alfred as tough but troubled bruce wayne- and i though THAT'S what the batman voice should have been- not the heavy handed, frothing stuff he ends up doing. i was hoping he was going to ditch that drama in his early stage, but no. spoiler question - why is it he needs to change suits? what happens to the old one?
HULK at rottentomatoes by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 01:38:22 PM
everyday i go there since opening day it's been going down. it's just dipped back up to 68 but it was at 64 a day or two ago. i was surprised to see it drop a point daily though.
zom-bot.com by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 01:42:52 PM
Good call about duffer63's review. He was right. And days before the others.
Are we all in agreement that The Prestige is... by Powers Boothe	Jun 27th, 2008 01:47:14 PM
one of 50 best films of the decade? I'm so incredibly excited about The Dark Knight. The summer movie season is pretty much over once this film is released.
So what does this mean? by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 01:47:21 PM
It almost has to be Rachael who dies in the middle of the movie. Maybe that will be the equivalent of Joker crippling and raping Barbara in the Killing Joke.
The Prestige.... by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 01:49:10 PM
was well acted and well shot, but it was just too weird and pointless.
Suit Change by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 01:49:47 PM
Most likley because from what i hear the old one was so uncomfortable to wear. Plus they like to sell scuba batman and space batman toys.
More excited then a little kid on Christmas Eve... by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 01:50:00 PM
Cannot wait for this. So now that theres tons of people that have seen it, what the fawk is Alfred's secret????
Suit Change by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 01:51:04 PM
If you were to make it 'realistic', I doubt the first suit would be Batman's last -- wouldn't he always be trying to make it better?
wickedjester [spoiler] by Mostholy	Jun 27th, 2008 01:51:26 PM
Presumably, it's the aforementioned letter.
Alfred's secret???? by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 01:51:47 PM
I think it's the note that Rachael gave him, from what I gather from all the spoilers so far.
Mostholy/Damage_Inc by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 01:53:07 PM
Thanks, I was thinking that after reading the first review.. not much of a secret though unless he's never told.. until she's already de--- nevermind.
Secret by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 01:53:13 PM
Have you people not noticed Rachel is Preggo in the trailers? I bet it's bruces baby. Joker kills his love and child. Man it really is going to be a dark knight.
so i'm guessing theirs a riddler nod in this by seabiscuits	Jun 27th, 2008 01:53:42 PM

? by seabiscuits	Jun 27th, 2008 01:53:56 PM

Heat sucks? Not a fan of Batman Begins? by grungies	Jun 27th, 2008 01:54:31 PM
Well, I know to ignore that one.
seabiscuits (w/ possible spoiler) by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 01:55:31 PM
I remember reading that someone draws a big '?' on a picture of Batman or Wayne.. that might be the thin slimey employee... I guess that's Nolan's thing, end each movie with the calling card of the next villian.
* RACHEL DAWES DIES * by Da B-Meister	Jun 27th, 2008 01:59:10 PM
It's not really even that much of a spoiler, but Rachel's death only contributes to the fracture in the relationship of Bruce and Harvey.
It's a JERRY MAGUIRE reference, not BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN by abcdefz7	Jun 27th, 2008 01:59:39 PM
Just sayin'.
abcdefz7 by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:03:36 PM
Let me guess, 'SHOW ME THE MONEY!?'
I dont get it, does TWO-FACE DIE?!!! by Mike_D	Jun 27th, 2008 02:13:44 PM
the first reviewer seemed to imply that.
erichaislar by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 02:15:08 PM
What trailer are you talking about with a pregnant RD? If that's true, that would make sense with Alfred's big secret, that it could be Bruce's kid. Worse if she does actually die.
The movie: BIG TIME SPOILERS by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 02:16:41 PM
Okay, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've read all the reviews, and seen all the footage and I have an idea of what we can expect when July 17 rolls around. SPOILERS LIKELY FOLLOW........ I swear to God, skip this if you don't want to know............ The movie begins with Gotham in not much better shape than before Batman showed up. A bunch of gangs have picked up where Falcone left off. Batman is still taking them down, but the Joker shows up and brings all the gangs together to kill Batman. Meanwhile, even though Gotham is a little wary of accepting Batman as their saviour, Harvey Dent has been gathering support. He wins the election and change looks to be coming. Bruce Wayne wonders if Gotham needs a Batman; if he can live happily ever after with Rachel. He doesn't know that Rachel is in love with, and plans to marry, Harvey Dent. Dent, Gordon and Batman are trying to take down all the gangs. At some point, the Joker kills Rachel Dawes which affects both Bruce and Harvey deeply. It sounds like the Joker kidnaps both Harvey and Rachel and gives Batman the option that he can save one of them. They are in different buildings. Batman chooses Rachel, and Gordon goes after Harvey, but the Joker has switched addresses, so when Batman thinks he's going after Rachel, he's really going for Harvey. Rachel blows up, and Harvey gets scarred, becoming Two-Face. Two-Face goes on a rampage killing all these mob guys, and evetually kidnaps Gordon's family (He blames Gordon for Rachel's death) and there's a fight between Batman and Two-Face that ends with Two-Face falling to his death.(It is unclear whether or not everyone assumes Harvey is dead, or if he 100% gone). Everyone is worried that the public learning of Harvey's crime spree would undo all the good he did, so Batman takes the blame for all the mob killings. He's left on the run at the end of the movie. Joker is captured, but alive. I read somewhere that the movie ends with Gordon explaining to his son that Batman is Gotham's protector, its Dark Knight... roll credits. END SPOILERS. Now, only some of this is confirmed information, but from the various reviewers all giving a rough outline of the movie, this is the most coherent one i can put together.
Jessica Biel as the new Catwoman! by Boomers_Lips	Jun 27th, 2008 02:17:19 PM
she's a hottie!
This TB is going to get out of hand by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Jun 27th, 2008 02:19:20 PM
As soon as all the haters get home. What kind of person doesn't like Heat? Probably the same type of person who kicks a bag a squirrels down the street.
Charlie Murphy by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 02:20:17 PM
That does sound pretty good from the spoilers we have gotten so far. Bravo.
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy! by Boomers_Lips	Jun 27th, 2008 02:20:33 PM
again!
Going to be hard for haters.. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:21:10 PM
To find a review to hang their hat on. I have a feeling this is going to be a big movie that critics will eat up...
Did you just rag on Heat? by Larry of Arabia	Jun 27th, 2008 02:21:57 PM
Boy, I'm glad the other reviews are so good. Ragging on what's almost universally regarded as one of the best crime dramas ever kinda makes you seem like a fool. I mean, if you had said why you don't like it I could understand this, but dang, man. You must be gunning for talkback hate.
you got that right Hawaiian by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:22:09 PM
I can't wait for this!
Rachel Dawes by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 02:22:31 PM
Couldn't they just write her out of this film in the first place if they are just going to kill her off in this one. Just for CONTINUITY's sake they could have easily replaced the character with some other broad. It's irksome.
Pencil in gangster's head gag... by KurtLockwood	Jun 27th, 2008 02:22:59 PM
...reminds me of Nicholson's joybuzzer in the hand that electrocutes gangster. Also, someone mentioned in another talkback that the batpod racing towards Joker while he stands in the middle of the street and yells, "Hit me!" is very similar to Nicholson standing in the middle of the street and yelling the same to Michael Keaton's batplane in the first one. Still can't wait to see this, tho...
Gus by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:23:05 PM
Riiiiiight...
And where is I am Batman? by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 02:23:12 PM
He's at home...washing his tights! HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Looks like the hater bus got in early. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:23:16 PM

I REALLY HOPE by lb	Jun 27th, 2008 02:23:24 PM
THIS LIVES UP TO THE HYPE!!! Please God let this be good, everyone hyped up Batman Begins and I left underwhelmed
Hobo.. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:25:04 PM
But then they would be introducing another 'broad' just to set up the tension/situation between Wayne and Dent.
Paging 70s venom by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 02:26:37 PM
You are needed in talkback 37263. Let us continue our discussion here since this one is spoilerific
Keep 'em coming Gus... by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:26:38 PM
Ghostrider > Iron Man
Does anyone know.... by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 02:27:46 PM
How much 2-Face will be in this movie? At first I thought he would only be seen briefly at the end of the movie, but now it seems that he will actually be around for awhile.
Oh Gus by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:28:01 PM
You are too Fun Knee.
I am Batman - "The Eeyore of AICN" by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:28:14 PM
You know I need to see that in every Batman thread now MNG...
Damage_Inc - Trailer 2 by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:28:27 PM
When the joker is entering the room there is a far shot of Rachael she has a belly plus I remember seeing a picture of her in a maroon dress with a belly in it somewhere. It's just a guess i could be wrong.
I, for one, will be disappointed by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 02:28:43 PM
If there is not a scene involving an art museum and a huge jukebox wailing with 80's awesomeness aka Prince.
RE: "This TB is going to get out of hand" by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 02:30:02 PM
Oh, there is definitely a good chance it's going to 'splode. Because AICN's cast of BB/TDK Haters are as predictable as the sun. So, grab your clipboards, boys! And get prepared to check off those hater talking points!
erichaislar by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:30:33 PM
I think that's a big stretch. Something like that would be out by now. I don't see Nolan going all flamboyant aka Singer.
My only complaint by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 02:31:49 PM
and again, not seeing the movie yet, but my only complaint is the necessity of the Hong Kong scene. What is the purpose of this other than to catch a baddie? As I posted on another forum, I feel it is not needed and fluff.
JPT by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 02:31:59 PM
Roger that!
WickedJester by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:32:04 PM
You could be right. But look at trailer 2 she looks big. and Maggie is a skinny chick.
erichaislar by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 02:32:09 PM
Give us a link to what you are talking about. I have a feeling you are right.
Gus... by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:32:29 PM
What part about the reviews make you think that? The 'best comic movie ever' part or maybe the 'better than I imagined' part. Perhaps it's just the fact that you are a Debbie Downer.
An Alamo Drafthouse show by Silverglade	Jun 27th, 2008 02:32:34 PM
What should happen: The theater staff are all wearing those bank robber clown masks. Random other employees are made up in he Joker paint. Even the fats kids, big red painted mouths and black eyes, bumping chests while holding pencils. Then show the Joker-ized trailer. Then the film. "Then everyone just loses their minds!" /jokervoice
"spread that on toast and eat it Fanboy's" by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:33:28 PM
I can't believe you wrote that.
WickedJester by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 02:34:03 PM
So what? you couls introduce a new woman in two minutes. It's not like Harvy Dent was in the BB.
erichaislar by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:35:50 PM
I can't watch the trailer now or I would try to comment, can't find a pic of her that would help. I just think one of the reviews or spoilers would've mentioned that. Unless that is the secret, but I think that would be way out of left field.
Damage_Inc by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:35:58 PM
http://www.apple.com/trailers/ wb/thedarkknight/trailer2/
Damage_Inc by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:36:48 PM
Right after the joker enters the party. Look at Maggie in the Far Shot.
Gus.. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:37:03 PM
You too man. Hope the movie makes you happy, eventually.
Top Ten has been cracked by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 02:37:34 PM

That museum scene in Burton's Batman by Hawaiian Organ Donor	Jun 27th, 2008 02:37:58 PM
Has aged as well as month old headcheese. I tried to watch that movie right before Batman Begins came out and skipped whole chapters.
WickedJester by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:38:20 PM
You could be right. I remember hearing this rumor somewhere and the seeing evidence of it. I am just throwing it out there. Oh well we will find out in 3 weeks.
gus van rant by dingus khan	Jun 27th, 2008 02:38:51 PM
that is the second time i've read your ang lee---> ang ry joke. and, i'm not proud to say, both times...i have laughed.
It's finally here. by O_Goncho	Jun 27th, 2008 02:39:00 PM
Feels like we've been waiting even longer for this film than the long arsed wait we HAVE waited... so it's finally time to put my fingers in/over my ears/eyes and try to hear as little about it as possible until I'm sat in front of an IMAX screen with a shit eating grin on my face.
Maggie is FRIGGIN FUGLY - KILL HER OFF by Da B-Meister	Jun 27th, 2008 02:40:24 PM
She's ugly, flat-chested and can't really act worth a crap. Hopefully her "rachel dawes" will be killed in this movie.
no gus... by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:41:34 PM
between Beyond Thunderdome and Men at Work.
Riddler/Hush are there. by sonofsound	Jun 27th, 2008 02:43:43 PM
The best Riddler story from the last five years has been Hush, in which Wayne's secret identity was compromised. So if we're not getting some Hush action here, it's prolly a setup for what's to come. Nolin cherry-picks the best Bat stories as it is.
Maggie flat chested, B-Meister? by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 02:46:48 PM
Have you seen Sherrybaby? They're not GIANT SILICONE MONSTROSITIES that you have no doubt been brainwashed into liking since birth, but she has cute tits.
So Matalo..you think a scene you haven't seen yet by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:47:23 PM
isn't needed and is fluff...you are a shit that's been dipped, dip-shit.
Gus by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:47:51 PM
I'm ashamed to tell you I have both of those on DVD. Assuming you mean Norm McDonald's Dirty Work...Haha
no can read by Project424	Jun 27th, 2008 02:50:30 PM
because I haven't seen a highly anticipated film spoiler-free since Die Hard: With A Vengeance...
Batman 89 is Nipples on Optimus Prime by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:51:45 PM
Batman 89 is painfuly awful to watch since Batman Begins came out. Shit, Batman Begins is even better watched on FX with commercial interruptions than that rotoscoped horror of a Batman movie, Batman 89.
I mean, seriously by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:53:06 PM
Batman 89 had ANIMATION in it...it just sucked....it had scenes and JUST scenes...Batman Begins is a better WHOLE movie.
Batman 89 had fucking ROBERT WUHL by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:53:56 PM
I mean, fuck, Arli$...what a shitty movie Batman 89 is.
by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:54:25 PM

"HEAT" sucks? by Holeman	Jun 27th, 2008 02:55:04 PM
Fuck you, you tasteless bastard.
Batman '89...everyone had brass wire rim glasses by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:55:10 PM
Shit I haven't seen a movie so dated since "Heartbeeps"
Teh Suk by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 02:56:20 PM
I think you're right. I haven't watched Batman 89 since BB came out... not that I don't enjoy it, I do... but it just doesn't hold up. I think Michael Keaton is good, and Nicholson does okay even though I feel the praise for him is a bit overdone. He pretty much plays himself in the movie. I think B89 has pretty good atmosphere but there's too many wrongs in there to be overlooked. (not that BB doesn't have it's own flaws-- i watched it again yesterday for the first time since 2006, and I had problems with it)
Batman 89 - could Bruce Wayne look like he was shitting by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:56:33 PM
with every look more in this movie?
Anthony Michael Hall by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 02:56:40 PM
Is he actually in this movie and who does he play?
B89 Animation? Where at Teh Suk? by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:56:51 PM

woah, my reply is to your first post, Teh Suk by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 02:57:29 PM
I don't hate B89 like you seem to.
Hobo by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 02:57:55 PM
Investigative Reporter ala Robert Wuhl in B89.
shia labouf to be robin by bacci40	Jun 27th, 2008 02:57:57 PM
if there are anymore complaints about batman being the anti-hero, this will happen...so stfu...this is basically the long halloween with some additions and subtractions...one of those additions being the cult of batman which comes from tdk
Batman 89 had WEAK ass DATED PRINCE SONGS by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:58:47 PM
I love Prince but, he is just a man.
HoboCode by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 02:59:10 PM
AMH plays a tv reporter name Mike Engel who receives information from a Wayne Enterprises employee about Batman's secret identity. From reviews, it sounds like AMH isn't in the movie that much though.
best Batman is the 66 version by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 02:59:14 PM
Suck on that! I mean a device that sucks water out of your body and leaves you in the from of pixie sticks? How is that not the greatest batman movie ever!
The animation comes when Joker falls from roof... by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 02:59:45 PM
Watch it... ALSO there are some rotoscoped batman parts.
Batman 66 rules more than Batman 89 that's for sure by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:00:49 PM
To Wong Foo, Julie Newmar, Thanks for everything! Said Catwoman.
Teh Suk by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:01:06 PM
Never noticed that before, I may have to check that out. I knew it was a terrible looking scene, but did not know it went Pee Wee's Playhouse on us...
There are GOOD THINGS in Batman 89 by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:03:05 PM
But mostly it's camp crap from someone who didn't appreciate the comics.
Batman 66 by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 03:04:06 PM
Also how could we forget Miss Kitka! she was Purrrr-fect!
I hoonestly have never been more mezmorized by a comic... by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:05:14 PM
than when I read the whole, "The Long Halloween"...it was like watching a great movie.
2 Things I hated about B89.. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:05:20 PM
The big black guy that really has the end fight with Batman. Who the hell was that guy? And the Joker's (deep breath) number one (deep breath) guuuuuy, Bob. Who the hell was that guy?
AMH by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 03:06:35 PM
But I heard he's actually a villain, right. Like Egghead or something.
Batman 89 is VISUAL not Visionary. by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:06:47 PM
Batman Begins is not cliche just as Batman 89 was not cliche. Methinks you don't know what "cliche" means, young turd.
Hobocode by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:08:44 PM
There was speculation he was the Riddler, which is bull. Other people were saying he was Azrael (I think anyway).
movie reality, comic reality by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:08:47 PM
i've come to accept the nolan stuff -which some consider 'boring'- as what really happened, and the iconic comics, or extremely personal vision of BATMAN 89 as mythic, elaborated re-tellings of re-tellings of real batman events. Like how one simple battle in history can eventually be so distorted, elaborated or retold that the end result is almost cartoonlike or overly patriotic
Nice, zombot.com - Pretty cool viewpoint by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:10:04 PM

Shia as Robin. by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 03:10:25 PM
I will immolate myself if that happens.
I like that zom-bot. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:10:43 PM
Not that you needed my approval, but it's an interesting way of putting it.
No Robin EVER, by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:12:08 PM
Howsabout that. Shia's too old anyway.
I want EggHead!! by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 03:12:13 PM
Come on. You know it's EGGactly what this franchise needs!
I actually see Batman 89 and Batman Begins by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:14:12 PM
As comic books by two different sets of writers and artists. Like Batman Begins is by Denny O'Niel and Neal Adams and Batman 89 is by the cats who do "The Batman" on the WB.
joker for instance by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:14:22 PM
i also now accept nolan's joker in makeup now because, well, it's realistic, but also because people who see the joker (and survive), or see him on tv, or spread the rumors and fearful gossip about him would start to tweak the reality...saying he has albino, or making up their own backstories as to how he got whitened, or how his mouth was cut......just like how the criminals speculate if batman can really fly, or if he's a robot, or a monster, or a ninja
No Robin. Nolan has said that himself. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:14:45 PM
Then again, Smallville creator's said no flights no tights...
Agent Johnson by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:16:22 PM
What formula was that, per say? Just curious.
Mr. freeze. by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 03:17:29 PM
Can you guys imagine what Nolan could do with this character? Man that would rule. Na. Let's just do Ma Parker instead.
That's why I said Batman 89 WASN'T Cliche by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:17:51 PM
Because it was different from all the superhero movie before it. But it wasn't visionary. It would have been visionary if Tim Burton made all that shit up and Batman and the Joker were invented by him. THAT would have been visionary. So, daughter, think before you pop off. I was agreeing with you for the most part.
Batman 89 is responsible for nolan's take by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:18:38 PM
by that i mean if warner hadn't taken the chance on a 'dark' moody batman movie in 89, we may have not ever been allowed to get BB ot TDK. now, chances are since the comics were already getting darker, the movies would eventually- and if not burton then maybe some other dark artist at some point...but, in our universe of reality, batman 89' tipped the scale for darker batman (and other super movies to come), so for that i respect it but it is way dated and as campy now as batman 66 was in 89.
If they ever do use Robin by erichaislar	Jun 27th, 2008 03:18:46 PM
He needs to be a kid like a 10 or 12 year old, Please no 25 year old Robin. Then the real challange comes from how do you get a kid in Nolan's universe to fight crime realistically is a big problem?
IESB has 12 clips by Oski	Jun 27th, 2008 03:19:10 PM
http://tinyurl.com/4e5mon
And for Chris sake Batman 89 and Batman Returns > ALL THE OTHER by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:19:46 PM
flicks...can get a amen, a what!!
Meant to say SCHUMAKER BATMAN FLICKS by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:20:09 PM

SCHUMAKER BATMAN FLICKS = Made in a 12 x 12 soundstage by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:20:58 PM
where they just let a fag eat neon paint, than barf it up.
Batman '89 is Wonderful but that doesn't mean by That 70s Venom	Jun 27th, 2008 03:21:42 PM
that we can't also enjoy TDK. Maybe both movies will be remembered as being excellent.
Louie the Lilac and Queen of Diamonds for BB3 by FlyingToupee	Jun 27th, 2008 03:21:54 PM
They can get Phyliss Diller for a darker take on Marcia.
A "Robin" wouldn't work in Nolan's Universe by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:21:59 PM
Thank Jeebus
closest thing we'll get to a nolan robin by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:22:42 PM
he probably already gave his nod or tip of hat to in BB. The kid with the argueing parents who batman gave the nightscope to, who was with rachel in the narrows and almost got killed, and who the police said that after the fear attacks his parents were missing.he also had a red shirt on, in an otherwise color-lacking movie. there ya go.
Teh Suk by DennisMM	Jun 27th, 2008 03:23:11 PM
B89 was, in its time, a deeply flawed but very enjoyable movie. It still has some appeal, though "Batman Returns" is more interesting if frequently incoherent. Nicholson plays himself on acid, which for most of the movie is lots of fun. And at least he was The Joker, not some Crow wannabe pretending to be The Joker. No permanent clown look = no Joker. I don't care how wide his grin looks.
nolan-robin kid in BB by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:24:58 PM
even watched it last night and totally forgot to see what he was credited as...probably 'narrows kid' or something.
DennisMM Don't address me personally by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:25:55 PM
You are an idiot who I wouldn't talk to if you were the only geek left on the planet. Nolans take is realistic. Permanent clown look = not realistic. So suck it.
Benditlikelucas, try the veal by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:26:45 PM
I'll be here all afternoon.
Teh Suk by DennisMM	Jun 27th, 2008 03:27:34 PM
I'd sooner suck it than be you, pal, you homophobic waste of time. Nolan's take is about as realistic as Grant Morrison's.
Crow wannabe by HoboCode	Jun 27th, 2008 03:28:03 PM
That was actually pretty funny. Gave me a chuckle. I disagree with you on the necessary permanance of the clown makeup though.
"The fucking leads are weak? Your weak." by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 03:29:03 PM
Uh, that's from GLENGARRY, GLEN ROSS. You call yourself a fan, you son of a bitch?
those clips are GREAT! by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 03:29:12 PM
the dialogue is so much better than in BB...thank god.
I'm not homophobic. I like fags. by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:30:15 PM
Fags, queens, queers, lesbians, dykes, faeries, sissy, nancy, whatever, I like em. Just because I said it looks like a Fag threw up neon paint is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ONG way from being homohobic, so pipe down there, tightbritches.
One More Thing and I'm Out ... by DennisMM	Jun 27th, 2008 03:30:20 PM
of this typically adolescent crap. Teh Suk: Next time one of YOUR essays is cited and discussed in American Film magazine, feel free to get back to me with your expertise on comics as they relate to film
How is it not realistic generic tb hater #493049039? by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:30:36 PM

clown makeup by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 03:30:47 PM
There are plenty of versions of the Joker where he painted his face instead of getting a white bleach from an acid tank.
Batman on the big screen by j2talk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:30:58 PM
I'll see The Dark Night and i'll no doubt enjoy it, just like I have enjoyed all the batman movies on the big screen..Yes I said ALL of them...some where solid hits and some left a lot to be desired, but none of them left me dissapointed I got as much out of each as i expected-seriously did anybody have high hopes for Batman Forever or Batman & Robin???? more camp than action films, but fun none the less
HOLY FUCK 12 CILPS?!!!!!? by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 03:31:22 PM
i usually dislike iesb, but that is awesome. i'll report back once i've watched 'em.
How about some fucking spoiler alerts? by Trazadone	Jun 27th, 2008 03:31:39 PM
I hate amature movie reviews, they just end up being scene by scene descriptions rather than analysis. Yes, we get it, you saw a movie before us, don't prove it by describing every scene, tell us whether it was any good or not. Sigh.
One more thing.. by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:32:07 PM
What the fuck is American Film magazine? Exactly...
If the reboots are killing you by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:32:08 PM
why aren't you dead yet? (shhh is it because you are a drama queen?)
Gus Van Rant by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2008 03:34:24 PM
ScriptGirl. Yeah, where is that little minx?
He's not out...he loves my replies by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:34:26 PM
because someone finally paid attention to him. Now go rub one out while thinking of me.
Nipples on Batmen are like Gus Van Rant by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:35:31 PM
Totally and utterly fucking useless.
Agent MyJohnson - Thanks for recognizing by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:36:22 PM
Trollop.
Agent Johnson by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:36:29 PM
Obviously Batman isn't 'realistic,' but Nolan's work is perceived as being the 'What if Batman was real..' movie. You can nit-pick anything to death that's fiction. 'There's no way a house would survive a tornado, let alone be picked up completely and tossed to another land.' Where's the fun in that? I'll go back to my original assertions that people that think like that are just Debbie Downers, misery loves company indeed.
batman 89 rocked by j2talk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:37:08 PM
sorry but without 89's Batman we wouldnt be seeing any of the current round of comic book films.. Damn i can remember back to '89 when i worked as movie theater manager and got an early look at the trailer-which I quickly spliced to to every movie in the theater-just to see the reaction to the opening shot of the flames coming out the batmobile - damn that was cool....and the way people started to get excited about seeing the movie...Keaton-no way!! Nicholson- too cool....ah the good old days when a movie could still suprise you.....
WickedJester with the Oz ref FTW! by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:37:48 PM
GOAL!
j2talk noone said that Batman 89 was horrible or non important by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:38:37 PM
so relax duder.
Sounds great to me, buuuttt... by BizarroJerry	Jun 27th, 2008 03:39:13 PM
So, apparently Two-Face is a major character even after his transformation? It looks like we've yet again Venomed ourselves. Fans, based on no real information, think that this OTHER villain will just barely appear and set up the next film. Well, at least we're no getting Two-Face that Tommy Lee Jones played. Ya know, written exactly like the Joker except for a coin and a little less laughing.
I'd rather see Nolan tackle your mom. by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:39:21 PM
She's like "The Fridge"
Agent Johnson and 70s by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 03:39:28 PM
I am glad I am not the only old fucker here. I think it is becoming cool to bash Burton's Batman. I will not say it was perfect, but it is a lot better than the kids these days make it out to be. That being said, BB was 2/3 greatness and I fully expect TDK to be the best of the three. (No I am not forgetting Returns or the "other" "Batman" movies" though I would like to)
Coin and less laughing by Teh Suk	Jun 27th, 2008 03:40:24 PM
BARELY less...TLJ wanted to BE Jack Nicholson. That was HORRIBLE!!!
This just in.... by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 03:41:17 PM
Teh Suk is attempting to troll everyone who posts. What a shock!
Agent Johnson by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:43:26 PM
Gotcha. Then I can agree, if a read a plot summary (like the info button on your TV) saying 'Nolan's realistic take on the Batman comics' I'd be pissed as well.
How come the Whops aren't complaining? by I Dunno	Jun 27th, 2008 03:43:48 PM
all the crime bosses are Italian, I thought the guinies would be whining by now.
Chechen Boss: Dey vont work, for a freak.... by Oski	Jun 27th, 2008 03:44:29 PM
Joker: (imitating) FREEEAKuh. Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed ya to your pooches, hmm? Then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is.
I still like Burton's Batman by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:44:57 PM
I think ripping on it is being the proverbial Monday Morning Quarterback. Face it, without B89 and Superman:The Movie, we would not have any of these movies...
Oscar for Heath by pipergates	Jun 27th, 2008 03:45:39 PM
a must
The suspense is killing me by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 03:46:44 PM
Brunomac, please finish your thought
Brunomac, did you feel the same in 89? by WickedJester	Jun 27th, 2008 03:48:15 PM
Or did you jump on the bandwagon going the other way then?
Teh Suk by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 03:49:43 PM
RE: Coin and less laughing Here is where you and I agree. AS much as I like TLJ, he made a comic book character into a cartoon! Or did he? Was it he or Schumacher?
Heat was shit? by I Dunno	Jun 27th, 2008 03:50:28 PM
Fuck off, first reviewer. Heat was awesome.
just watched some IESB clips by Silverglade	Jun 27th, 2008 03:54:10 PM
Just a brief clip and Maggie already makes Katie's performance look like she thought she was on 90210. Finally a chic who can act off Bale and stand her own.
Burton's Batman by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 03:56:02 PM
Nobody has to be ashamed that they can appreciate B89 for what it is. Especially those of us who were a certain age at that certain time. No, it doesn't hold up today, but most 80's action movies don't either.
Those 12 clips are pretty awesome by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 03:57:13 PM
pretty much every scene from the trailers extended by twenty seconds. Joker is in clips 8 and 12, for those interested. In clip 4 you can kinda tell that oldman is hiding his accent.
BR -"more as a twisted comic fairy tale" by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 03:58:29 PM
That's a really good way to put it.
Batman 89 by MJAYACE	Jun 27th, 2008 03:58:51 PM
And Batman Returns, were great in their own way. Its just a very different interpretation. BB and TDK seem to be more for the 14 year old kid in 89 that is grown up now. Oh and breather "Bob" (somebody asked about that), wasn't that dorky Malek from Conan the Destroyer?
WARNING! by IForgotAbout19	Jun 27th, 2008 03:59:21 PM
THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS "POILE"
I'd rather see them film the comic.... by j2talk	Jun 27th, 2008 04:01:26 PM
as i said before ALL the Batman films have had good and bad points, I'd just dont know why they wont just film the damn comics...or at least get the comic writers to write the script.... take Batman: Year One or The Killing Joke film them and ....
breather "Bob" by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:02:16 PM
He was also one of the Swill brothers from the short lived Adventures of Brisco County Jr. starring Bruce Campbell. Most people probably won't even know what I'm talking about.
Agent Johnson by Slaphappy Slim	Jun 27th, 2008 04:05:16 PM
Anyone who calls someone else "son" should should be embarassed of his or her self. That said, you did call yourself an old turd. Oh, and Begins was visionary, Batman '89 was simply idiosyncratic, like every other Burton film.
Batman Returns by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:06:17 PM
It was kind of weird watching Batman go around killing people. I think it's the only time it's ever been done.
I just wanna see... by alienindisguise	Jun 27th, 2008 04:08:35 PM
Batman and the Joker go hand to hand and in the latest trailer it looks like a bit of that in there. Their confrontations need to be up close and personal
Brunomac by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:11:17 PM
Yeah, it was pretty great. It got canceled after only one season. It may have been one of the most under rated television shows of all time. You can't get much better than Bruce Campbell as a cowboy going after the gang who killed his father.
Nolan's got respect by a rolling stone	Jun 27th, 2008 04:13:31 PM
They've never highlighted characters on screen like Joe Chill, Carmine Falcone, Sal Maroni, or even Lucius Fox before. Not until Batman Begins. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Leslie Tompkins, Harvey Bullock, or even a young Babs Gordon. Nolan is following the medium and staying true to the mythology. As long as he continues on that vein, I know I'm going to dig it. As for making it real, I think because of the medium, it translates well. If you're watching something real, it's easier to except subject-matter grounded in reality. Catwoman, Black Mask, Maxie Zeus, Riddler, Penguin, Ventriliquist, Bane, Mad Hatter, and Hugo Strange would all fit in this universe. We've already seen Zsasz, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and modified versions of Ra's and the Joker. To sum it all up: me likey.
Agent Johnson by flickchick85	Jun 27th, 2008 04:19:01 PM
I think Begins was visionary not because of the story elements, but because of the universe Nolan created in which those story elements were told. I personally have never seen a comic book character brought to life in such a rich, textured, and downright realistic world before. And I'm not a comics reader, so Nolan's universe was really the main appeal for me.
Brunomac by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:28:38 PM
Yeah, I've thought about that. I can't ever remember seeing reruns of it. It would be perfect for Sci-Fi.
Black Mask and Bane by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:34:41 PM
Would be awesome Nolan villains. All they would have to do is make them brutal without being a cartoon. Imagine Machine from 8MM in a Batman movie. That's what they should do with Bane.
Michelle Williams as Batgirl in the next Batman movie! by Boomers_Lips	Jun 27th, 2008 04:40:15 PM
she's sort of attractive.
And I hate to say it but..... by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 04:43:01 PM
I think Mad Hatter and Ventriloquist would be interesting too, if they were done right.
KEEP YOUR FUCKING SPOILERS TO YOURSELVES by One Nation Under Zod	Jun 27th, 2008 04:44:49 PM
you cock smoking dick gobblers.
Drudge Report by SenatorJeffersonSmith	Jun 27th, 2008 04:49:05 PM
ran an article today about Batman and, in particular, Ledger...written by some guy from the LATimes after the screening last night...the user comments on that thread are pretty fucking funny...lots of stuff about Ledger winning Oscars for movies made 10 years from now...good stuff.
Gary DP thinks Heat sucks by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 27th, 2008 04:52:28 PM
What a tool.
PUT SPOILERS AROUND FIRST REVIEW by Happy Boy	Jun 27th, 2008 04:57:12 PM
not everyone wants to know what happens to Dent at the end of the movie or who dies. Heat sucks? LMFAO
Do any of these guys talk about the action scenes? by Mosquito March	Jun 27th, 2008 05:10:10 PM
Specifically, whether you can tell what the fuck is going on, this time? I don't want to read the spoilers, but that has been a nagging question about this movie since the first one came out.
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Jun 27th, 2008 05:11:18 PM
Damn You Michael Bay
Very excited about this. by mrfan	Jun 27th, 2008 05:14:23 PM
Just hope that there is not too much crowding of characters.
I Wrote the First Review Spoilers by MasterBateman	Jun 27th, 2008 05:14:59 PM
My review was a lot better when it had paragraph breaks in it. Beaks is a moron because I never said it was the best comic book ever. Honestly, I had more fun with The Incredible Hulk, mostly because it has a better score and I'm heavily influenced by music. I'd rather watch paint dry than watch Heat. I never said that I didn't like Batman Begins, just that I didn't cream my pants over it. I'm not into artsy fartsy shit; I like fast paced action movies, so hopefully that clarifies my point of view a little bit. Let me put it this way. Unless they pull an Alien:Resurrection, Two Face won't be in the next one. And yeah, the letter is Alfred's secret. I didn't shit myself over TDK, but it was really good. I might prefer Batman Returns, because let's face it, Heath Ledger isn't better than Michelle Pfeiffer. I AM NOT A TOOL! But I was really stoned when I saw the movie, and sometimes I enjoy a movie less when I smoke too many blunts. Know what I mean? Like sometimes you like the movie more, but sometimes you just wanna get the fuck out of there and eat a Big Mac. I experienced that due to it's long running time. And I have a life and don't spend all day on Talkback, so don't waste your time asking me a million questions, because I probably won't read them. PEACE!
Damn You MCMLXXVI by TheyCallMeMisterBay	Jun 27th, 2008 05:17:55 PM
Damn You MCMLXXVI
Verne Troyer as Mini-Penguin in the next Batman movie! by Boomers_Lips	Jun 27th, 2008 05:19:46 PM
trust me!
ugh here comes the i hate burtons batman brigade by seabiscuits	Jun 27th, 2008 05:25:00 PM
pull your head out of your asses and take a look again. ok now put your head back in cause your face is ugly. batman 89 is well made movie version of batman, probly the best you were gonna get after the 1969 batman that was the biggest mental image up until then. good movie, good style, good performances, a good way to end the 80's. batman returns was a blast for me, a christmas tradition every year. it did take me a few years to realize it though, didn't like it at first. but the catwoman made it much easier to watch, then i realized how sick penguin was and how cool a circus gang could be. yes very over the top, but come on it had christopher walken, and some great performances, michael kearon rocked. glad to say the next two batman flicks never grew on me.
No problem Agent Johnson by flickchick85	Jun 27th, 2008 05:50:39 PM
That word "visionary" gets thrown around so often these days, I think it has different definitions to everyone.
seabiscuits - right on! by MasterBateman	Jun 27th, 2008 05:56:58 PM
Batman Returns IS magic. As good as The Dark Knight is, nothing in it evokes goosebumps like the scene where Michelle Pfeiffer walks into her apartment and proceeds to go batshit crazy and transform into Catwoman. That scene is one of the most moving scenes in any movie I've ever seen. From the moment when she drones "honey, I'm home" to her reaction to the messages on the answering machine, shredding her stuffed animals in the food processor, shattering the fluorescent sign so it says "Hell Here." FUCK! That scene is AMAZING! And Michelle Pfeiffer, lookin all crazy and demented, is BEYOND fuckable. Let's face it, none of the Batman movies are an accurate translation of the comics, but the way Danny Elfman's score is weaved seamlessly into a tragic fairy tale about a misunderstood penguin freak and a sexually frustrated secretary is moving in the most darkly comic sort of way. And there are so many amazing moments in that movie. When Penguin bites off that dude's nose, when Miss Gotham gets attacked by bats, when Catwoman eats the parakeet, and of course when Bruce and Selena realize each other's secret identity's while they dance to that kick ass Siouxsie & the Banshee's song. I could watch that movie all day everyday. Sure, it's awesome when Heath Ledger does the "pencil trick." Everyone in the audience ate it up. And The Dark Knight is one of the best movies this year, but Batman Returns is one of the best motherfucking movies EVER! I'm gonna go watch it right now before I bust a nut thinking about it.
MasterBateman by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 06:08:36 PM
Man, thank you. I've always felt the same way about the Michelle Pfeiffer apartment scene. There's something terrible about watching her go insane and destroying all of her pretty girl things. It's disturbing as hell and almost makes me sick to watch.
Best news I heard today! by RKO2285	Jun 27th, 2008 06:10:50 PM
I really hope it does live up to they hype... Fuck! I can't wait any longer.. and its going to be hard to avoid all the damn spoilers! oh and Heat doesn't suck!
MasterBateman by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 06:12:15 PM
so Two_face is for sure for sure for sure done for? As for Batman Returns, I always found it a fairly worthy follow-up to B89, in spite of its weirdness. Danny DeVito was a good choice as Penguin, and that "Hell here" bit always made me smile.
I saw The Dark Knight too.....and regarding the Brokeback/Jerry by Your Moms Box	Jun 27th, 2008 06:25:59 PM
It's not really a nod at either films. I think the reviewer was confusing a certain line of dialogue with the "I wish I knew how to quit you" line from BBM. But that said, even the line itself isnt a wink at Jerry Maguire. The Joker says "I don't want to kill you. You complete me." to Batman in one scene. Not so much a pop culture reference as it is a statment that the two need the other to exist.
Your Moms Box by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 06:27:31 PM
can you answer my question, then? is two-face for sure gone at the ned?
i meant "End" by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 06:28:45 PM
not "ned"
Your Moms Box by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 06:29:14 PM
Yeah, if you are telling the truth, please tell us about two-face.
WickedJester (Joker's deep breath) by JamesT	Jun 27th, 2008 06:32:07 PM
He was imitating Grissom aka Jack Palance. Are you old enough to even know who Jack was? Just curious, because I thought it was pretty obvious.
zom-bot.com and damage inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 06:36:27 PM
Thanks. All Charlie Murphy that is some serious detective work. Your almost spot on. Enjoy it.
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 06:38:41 PM
Hey, man. What do you mean by that? Is 2-face really supposed to be gone at the end?
Re: Two-Face by Your Moms Box	Jun 27th, 2008 06:38:56 PM
I don't know why you guys would want to ruin the movie for yourselves and know the fate of a major character...but if you really want to know, feel free to PM me. I really don't want to put spoilers up on this board and ruin the movie for someone. Or tempt people to ruin it for themselves.
Thanks Duffer by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 06:39:18 PM
i apologize for being a dick after your review was posted the other day, you have been proven correct. So, my synopsis is valid?
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 06:46:47 PM
Now you can't pop in and tease us and then split. Is there any truth to 2-Face being gone at the end?
Any particular reason... by slugbat	Jun 27th, 2008 06:54:58 PM
Everyone thinks any of the Spider-Mans were good? Especially that POS 2nd one, with that ridiculous "crucifixion" scene and all the whining and the crying. Fuck me, that was not SpiderMan. And Tobey is NOT Spidey! Jesus Dick Suckin' Christ that tril was terrible.
rambo III/enforcer TB dissapear? by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 06:56:19 PM
has anyone seen the rambo 3 sly vs. clint TB around here? Just went up into thin air
slugbat by Charlie Murphy	Jun 27th, 2008 07:03:05 PM
i don't want to say i agree with you, because i don't feel as strongly as you do, but i always found the Spidey flicks to be... not that great. Part 2 is my favorite, but I don't consider it the best comic book movie ever. not even top 3. There's some good stuff in it, but it's not legendary. and i agree that Tobey is miscast as peter parker. seeing topher grace's enthusiasm in part 3 really made me wish someone else had gotten cast as peter. (not necessarily topher grace, but someone with the same fun screen presence...) tobey barely cracked a smile in all three movies, and even though peter got picked on and stuff, he is a more or less content kid who really embraces his alter ego. i rarely got that feeling in the trilogy. as for Part 3, it was awful, I don't like talking about it.
Duffer63/Your Moms Box by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 07:10:04 PM
Throw us a freakin' bone here!
Batman TV show>TAS>89>Returns>TDK>BB>Forev er>Robin by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 07:10:57 PM
saerch your feleings u know it to be true. lolz
Damage_Inc by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 07:25:24 PM
Sorry to flame but asking a million times and no one answering you should give you a hint.
You know, for all the cool news today.... by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 07:27:04 PM
These talkbacks suck. Thanks a lot Duffer63 and Your Moms Box. You could have rescued us from the boredom.
Yeah that second review... by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 07:29:52 PM
it just reeks of some magazine critic wrote it and then diddled his dick with the horseshit "clever" word-play. Grotesque and nauseating.
MasterBateman by Azby	Jun 27th, 2008 07:31:04 PM
The scene where Catwoman wrecks her apartment one of the most moving scenes in any film? I just finished watching returns for first time in years, it isn't THAT good. De Vito is awesome, Keaton, however, is 'The Happening' bad as batman. BB is better acting and dialogue wise, but BR feels more iconic due to Burton's direction. I think BB is more enjoyable overall though.
matalo by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 07:31:34 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? Duffer answered dozens of our questions the other day. Guess you don't know about that. Apparently, he just popped in today to fuck with us. Ordinarily, I'd be offended at your petty little comment, but these talkbacks suck so bad today, I don't even give a shit. I'd rather be flamed than wait for one idiotic post every 15 minutes.
the GODFATHER of comic books films by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 07:31:48 PM
Superman: The Movie
HEAT SUCKS? by Interficium	Jun 27th, 2008 07:36:04 PM
Pfffhahahahahaha.
Chris Odonel needs to be Robin.... AGAIN! by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 07:53:32 PM
how AWESOME would it be to have Bale and Odonnel team up for Part 3, maybe a subtle bridge acknowledging that this is really a continuation of previous batmans, heck he can even pick up a nipples-suit and turn toward bale with a wink "whattya think? Bale just has a grim Patrick Bateman stare and he goes "fine, but chicks dig the nipples" and they ride off. Robin gets his own mini-style red colored jet-wheel thing to ride on, it's unconventional where he has to lie down and strap himself in, very flat based to avoid bullets or sharpnel and they BLAST off into the night to fight crime! Nolan i hope you're intently reading this.
Damage_Inc by matalo	Jun 27th, 2008 08:05:15 PM
"Yeah, if you are telling the truth, please tell us about two-face." "Is 2-face really supposed to be gone at the end?" "Is there any truth to 2-Face being gone at the end?" Though I do like your thoughts about Bane and some of the other characters.
Batman doesn't fly by eXcommunicated	Jun 27th, 2008 08:08:56 PM
He falls. With style.
BB is the godfather 1 of comic book movies by Shadow Warrior	Jun 27th, 2008 08:09:12 PM
i've said it a long time ago. not flashy, gritty, grounded in realism, there are even some similarities between michael corleone and bruce wayne. i hoped TDK would be the godfather 2, good to know that it is. And one of the best things i love with nolan's work is the non-obvious cgi. I'm so fucking glad to be alive during nolan's time.
i can understand the Heat comment by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 08:13:51 PM
they tried to make more out of a simple cops and robbers movie than it needed to be, to the point where it was masquerading as something operatic and melodramatic. all that cartoony family shit could have been left out, as well as the mini-stories of every extra and secondary character no one gives two shits about, and they also made it corny by somehow making it all one big last ditch gamble, the badguys who've been doing this for years all of a sudden have too much "heat" so they decide it's too scary and need to pull one more heist and then leave to their vacation dreamplaces? fuck that awful excuse for more drama. also shit that doesnt make sense, they make the robber crew be so meticulous, slick, professional tight-knit that they hire a loose cannon psycopath and dont bother to check his history. nice one!
Damage_Inc by Your Moms Box	Jun 27th, 2008 08:34:24 PM
Like I said, I'd be more than happy to spill beans to you if your so desperate to have the flick ruined for you 20 days before you have a chance to see it. But I will not post spoilers and or plot points here. Its not fair. Even if I tagged it with a "SPOILER WARNING", people simply can't resist but read it, and that's weak sauce. I only posted the Joker's line to Batman because I felt it was coming across like some hammy pop reference for people to look out for, when its really not even close. See the flick on July 18th. I'm saving you from yourself.
damage inc and charlie murphy by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 08:34:32 PM
Sorry to be such a tease! Hate to be the one to break it to you but Two Face falls from a serious height off of a building site. Batman and Gordan have a bunch of dialogue as Two Face is beside them dead on the ground. You dont see him in a coffin but you do see his funeral. He is a DEAD MAN. CM your almost spot on.
matalo by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 08:34:42 PM
First, I must be really bored to even fall into this shit. Second, did you even read my above post? Third, I honestly don't know what point you are even trying to make. And most important, did you actually just go and collect all of my posts and copy them into your post? Christ, that's creepy and sick even for the talkbacks. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anybody do something so disturbing in all the years I've been here. Go stalk somebody else you fucking freak. BTW, this is why I was hoping Duffer would come and chat with us. At least you can have an intelligent conversation with him.
Your Moms Box by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 08:36:42 PM
Fair enough, Thanks. I'm just very bored right now.
Damage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 08:38:53 PM
Sorry these talkbacks were so boring for you today but it is Friday night! I Thank God I havent been sitting infront of the computer all day like the other day.
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 08:41:25 PM
Sup? And ditto to you. I know you guys don't want to spoil the movie for people and I appreciate that. It's just with all this 2-Face talk today, I've been wondering if it is going to be Venom all over again. An underdeveloped character that only gets minutes of screen time before being killed off.
Damage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 08:47:10 PM
I was thinking about this today. In some ways its annoying he is killed off because they really could of utilised the dynamic of The Joker and Two Face in Batman 3 but his death does work in this context as in some ways this movie is more his story than any other character. I kinda get the immpression that your a fricken huge Two Face fan so Im thinking your gonna be a tad dissapointed!
Agent Johnson by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 08:55:03 PM
Couldnt agree with you more. Thats why I dont really mind about Two Face as it made dramatic sense. It also says to the viewer that you dont really know where this franchise is going. Everyone is not just in it for the money. There is real artistry on show.
Two Face fan by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 08:55:06 PM
No, not really. I just thought that it was going to be Two Face in the 3rd movie after being set up in the 2nd. I think a lot of people thought that was how it was going to be. What I find funny about it is how so many people have been saying that it's good that DC quit killing off every villain like they did in the past. And how people thought they had learned their lesson after the previous Batman movies and SM3. That's ironic.
Damage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 08:59:34 PM
You have a point. I would never compare this film to SM3 though. That film really lost its way. Two many choir boys and only one priest so to speak. It seems my riddler theory is also gaining weight!
Batman 3 by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:02:28 PM
I think we may only ever get a glympse of The Joker in Arkham in B3. I cant imagine we will get another Batman with The Joker as the main protaganist. Atleast not in this franchise. No other actor will want to take this on. Its too grand a task and will be considered sacrilege by many. It looks like they could be setting up The Riddler in this one but you just never know.
they could do joker again by Prossor	Jun 27th, 2008 09:02:33 PM
keep his corpse from rotting and sort of insert robotic animatronic joints inside and program it to do many mannerisms off his TDK impersonation. easy!
Batman Returns is the greatest S & M flick for kids eva!!!!! by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks	Jun 27th, 2008 09:03:57 PM
Every time I saw it at the cinema, parents walked their kids out of that flick. Burton rules(hey Tim, I won't mention Planet of the Apes).
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 09:04:38 PM
Yeah, I guess so. But I'm not sure which other character could carry a Nolan Batman movie. All the other ones are second rate. Unless they did a brutal Bane or Black Mask like I mentioned before. I think it's a little soon to see Batman get his back broken though.
Damage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:10:01 PM
I would love to see Bane. I loved that storyline as a kid. Dont think he will be the next one though. Who knows with who they are gonna go with or whatever type pf story they decide to tell. All I know is I hope they keep on improving on each one. Did you see chud.com did a thing talking about all the hyperbole surrounding Heathe's performance?
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 09:11:18 PM
Here's a non spoiler question for you. Do you think Ledger's death had anything to do with Dent dying in the movie, or was it already a done deal? It just seems strange to me that they would kill off two face and not Scarecrow or the Joker.
Duffer63 by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 09:13:22 PM
re: chud.com. No, do you have a link?
Dmage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:15:47 PM
I dont believe there were any reshoots for the film after Heath died. That would lead me to believe that Two Face always died in the Nolans version of the script. So done deal.
Come to think of it.... by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 09:18:48 PM
The Batman Forever Two-face died from falling, too. I thought they could be a little more original than that.
the chud.com article by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 09:18:59 PM
tee hee they make fun of 'harry knowles type personalities'...hee hee
Damage Inc by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:21:32 PM
I dont think its a case of being original so much as what works best for the film. Most people who watch the film arent going to notice when Heath's Joker uses a line that Jack's joker did before him. It just works at that moment. Two Face death the similarities are just coincidence and again in this case it just makes sense.
Chud Article by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:22:13 PM
They do hae a point!
a quote from the 2nd review: by BadMrWonka	Jun 27th, 2008 09:23:19 PM
"Of course Christian Bales, Bruce Wayne is spot on, especially in showing bruces torment on how he has to handle the Joker." way to blow the possessive apostrophe twice in one befuddled sentence. what are they TEACHING kids these days?
death by falling by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 09:24:01 PM
joker fell. catwoman fell and came back to life. ra's crashed. penguin...what did penguin die of? i just remember his black blood choking up...don't remember how mr.freeze or poison ivy got caught... i think hero movies have to resort to ridiculous height falls because people in movies always get shot and die instantly, or get shot like 50 times and can keep walking and say last words...so, falling is final and tragic? too bad dent truly dies, i was hoping they were going to fake his death but he would really be M.I.A. the third needs the riddler, but can this reese kid really carry at least half a movie?
Agent Johnson by Duffer63	Jun 27th, 2008 09:24:21 PM
Again you are correct. Thats why I made the original comparison to The Godfather Part 2. They made that as a film. Not so much as a sequel or as a part of a trilogy. TDK feels the same.
Agent Johnson by Damage_Inc	Jun 27th, 2008 09:24:41 PM
Yeah but shit, almost every comic book movie kills off the villains at the end nowadays. That's what was supposed to be unique about Nolan's series, that it could be an ongoing story with the same characters.
a fall kills dent, but... by zom-bot.com	Jun 27th, 2008 09:27:21 PM
an explosion and , like, tenth degree burns to the head don't. duffer- is there an indication that time passes after dent's scarring and his vengeance? or is he like up and out of the hospital withh exposed skull the next day? that part worries me.
no more joker by j2talk	Jun 27th, 2008 09:28:58 PM
why would we want to see the joker again???? Even if done well, Batman has got enough vil

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